Care homes

greencreeper · 20-06-2005, 18:11

Something to look forward to in old age - the delights of a care home

This one managed to par-boiled an inmate

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/4111450.stm

**Rob** · 20-06-2005, 18:21

They obviously weren't using Mr Prescott's new fangled taps

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...hlight=Prescot

greencreeper · 20-06-2005, 19:02

Well they were using a temperature regulator that, er, didn't regulate. Issues of mortality are on my mind at the moment, as I steadily decline towards 30. I know the poor standard of care my grandad received on a OAP ward, and a friend's girlfriend's mother has a rough time of things at her home. I'd sooner die young than old, abused and unloved.

Ramrod · 20-06-2005, 19:26

There seems to be a cultural acceptance (in the UK-and probably other places as well) of abandoning relatives to care homes.

I wonder if it's due to the increased use and acceptance of social services 'care' in general in this country?

kronas · 20-06-2005, 19:29

im not a fan of care homes and this story is sickening, i hope i never have to use a care home for any of my beloved family members.

never have never will.

and yes ramrod is right about the culture whatever happened to looking after your own family members, those that brought you in to this world

its all me me me these days.

Tuftus · 20-06-2005, 20:07

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Originally Posted by kronas

im not a fan of care homes and this story is sickening, i hope i never have to use a care home for any of my beloved family members.

never have never will.

and yes ramrod is right about the culture whatever happened to looking after your own family members, those that brought you in to this world

its all me me me these days.

Well said.

greencreeper · 20-06-2005, 21:58

It is interesting when you see and read about other cultures and find that elders are respected and cared for - their wisdom and longevity, valued. Then you look at the UK where we shove our elders in homes characterised by abuse and neglect, and occasionally visit when the guilt gets too much. I'm not sure if it is, as Ramrod mentions, because we have the facilities to unburden ourselves of grandma and grandad, or whether it's because we're shallow and selfish, purely material in our concerns and thinking.

nffc · 20-06-2005, 22:15

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Originally Posted by kronas

im not a fan of care homes and this story is sickening, i hope i never have to use a care home for any of my beloved family members.

never have never will.

and yes ramrod is right about the culture whatever happened to looking after your own family members, those that brought you in to this world

its all me me me these days.

You're 19 (and I'm only 21 so I can hardly say) but let's be fair, you don't have a career, a family and kids to look after and need to work just for survival purposes- let alone having to look after old relatives whom you may live away from.

I'm hardly a fan of care homes myself- but they are a useful refuge as a last resort for people whose families don't have the time, or the locality even, to fit looking after them properly in their own lives. As I said though, they should be used as a last resort and people should try themselves first.

Better to have them cared properly in a care home than have them neglected not being in one, imo. But then... better to care well for them yourselves, and you can hardly guarantee quality in a care home! Depends on the luck of the draw.

Sadly in a chav-style world of crappy people who couldn't care less or even worse know how to care for people less fortunate... I can't see it.

**Stuart C** · 20-06-2005, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

There seems to be a cultural acceptance (in the UK-and probably other places as well) of abandoning relatives to care homes.

I wonder if it's due to the increased use and acceptance of social services 'care' in general in this country?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas

im not a fan of care homes and this story is sickening, i hope i never have to use a care home for any of my beloved family members.

never have never will.

and yes ramrod is right about the culture whatever happened to looking after your own family members, those that brought you in to this world

its all me me me these days

I take it neither of you have ever had to deal with a senile member of your family? It's all very well saying everyone who puts relatives in care homes is selfish, but it is not always practical to care for somebody at home.

A senile relative can need 24 hour care. For the average family, this would probably mean one person leaving their job. The aforementioned average family may not be able to afford for this to happen (mine couldn't).

Note, I am not excusing those who just want to dump their oldies on someone else, nor excusing p*s* poor care homes, but things are not as clear cut as you both appear to be saying.

Roy MM · 20-06-2005, 22:29

My wife is a care worker, she was pretty upset reading this report, she says all the baths are tested by the thermometer regardless of the taps being govnered by a thermostat.

paulyoung666 · 20-06-2005, 22:30

a similar thing happened here not sure of the outcome tbh

**Rob** · 20-06-2005, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod

There seems to be a cultural acceptance (in the UK-and probably other places as well) of abandoning relatives to care homes.

I wonder if it's due to the increased use and acceptance of social services 'care' in general in this country?

I suspect it's more a trend towards the break down of dependence on the traditional family unit. The social or welfare state may be a factor, but as we grwo more independent due to changes in lifestyle, loose the moral support, discipline and respect for your elders imposed by a strong family unit (parents less responsible for their kids as the kids grow up), the kids see less responsibility to their elders.

kronas · 20-06-2005, 22:31

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Originally Posted by scastle

I take it neither of you have ever had to deal with a senile member of your family? It's all very well saying everyone who puts relatives in care homes is selfish, but it is not always practical to care for somebody at home.

A senile relative can need 24 hour care. For the average family, this would probably mean one person leaving their job. The aforementioned average family may not be able to afford for this to happen (mine couldn't).

Note, I am not excusing those who just want to dump their oldies on someone else, nor excusing p*s* poor care homes, but things are not as clear cut as you both appear to be saying.

im not going to make this a personal issue but parents should be welcomed at any age so should any of your family members, if it wasent for them then you and me would not be here and i doubt alot of people on this forum would be, im not one for care homes because i believe in looking after your own, why do people have kids if they turn out to be ungreatful idiots who just toss their parents in to care homes the minuite they are old and frail because 'they are in the way'

i know people need to earn a living and lead their own lives but there are diffarent provisions that can be made such as a part time carer at home where some routines would be taken over by someone else who is capable and vetted under your own guidence and you can then look after the person when you get home.

lifes a struggle but to shun your own parents

paulyoung666 · 20-06-2005, 22:33

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Originally Posted by kronas

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lifes a struggle but to shun your own parents

sometimes it is not a case of shunning your own parents though , at the end of the day , you need to look after your own sanity or where would you and your own children be

kronas · 20-06-2005, 22:34

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

sometimes it is not a case of shunning your own parents though , at the end of the day , you need to look after your own sanity or where would you and your own children be

fair enough and your entitled to your opinion but i dont agree with the notion of care homes at all.