Should we deny racists publicity?

Damien · 05-02-2005, 21:51

I read that the BNP is been denied newspaper coverage and that the national union of journalists are not allowing BNP member to join its union. Newspapers are also actively being asked to avoid reporting on any BNP activities and to refuse BNP letters and opinion.

Recently there is evidence of this. The complete lack of coverage the BNP leader got when he got arrested showed that the media is avoiding giving them any more free publicity. A recent invitation to the BNP leader for a debate was withdrawn from the university that invited him.

I have seen these comments on the BNP website itself (its amazing the lies and racist views these people have but also the amount of fear and hate these people have) Obviously the fact it is on their website means you have to take it with a pinch of salt. But I have also seen this in the more mainstream media as well.

So in the run up to an election do you believe it is right to repress these views just because they are wrong? Should we try are give these people as little publicity as possible to avoid them getting any more votes. Or should we allow them to speak and hope that by given them a platform we can then expose their lies and they will be defeated by a free exchange of ideas instead of being defeated though denying them publicity?

I personally am not sure where I stand. I would like the BNP to be defeated in debates and to be exposed as the racist party there are to its members. Hopefully doing enough damage to finish them off for good. I think that by repressing them it makes them more determined and convinces their members that they are right. If you donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t give them publicity, we canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t prove them wrong.

On the other hand, how can we be sure that they will be defeated though ideas? Chances are they will get more votes if we give them the more publicity and its members wont believe us anyway or already know what the BNP is but still support them. Would Hitler ever have gotten to power if he didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have publicity? Properly not.

So what do you think? Deny them publicity, or challenge their views?

AndrewJ · 05-02-2005, 21:59

This thread could get going lmao, nice topic choice.

I want to know one thing... ( puts on flame proof suit and books tickets to avoid backlash)

Why when we offend or do something which a asian does not like we are called racist..yet when they offend us we are not able to call them racist, when was the last time you heard of a asian being done for racism yet we get done for it.

Sorry rant over and i shall leave lol...

jellybaby · 05-02-2005, 22:08

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames

Why when we offend or do something which a asian does not like we are called racist..yet when they offend us we are not able to call them racist, when was the last time you heard of a asian being done for racism yet we get done for it.

That is a good question. I work with several asians and they are so racist!, and yet, nothing is ever said to them

NitroNutter · 05-02-2005, 22:08

And how often is racism falsely claimed to protect them from the extent of the law for crimes by citizens within ethnic groups

Mal · 05-02-2005, 22:11

I think that AndrewJames should have done his own thread, as it seems to not to be on the topic of should the BNP get publicity.

jellybaby · 05-02-2005, 22:14

At the end of the day, the BNP is a political party, and should be entitled to get the same publicity as any other party. It sould be up to the public weather they support them or not.
All parties talk out their backside when election time comes, its up to us to decide who we believe

AndrewJ · 05-02-2005, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Mal

I think that AndrewJames should have done his own thread, as it seems to not to be on the topic of should the BNP get publicity.

Oh that it is my friend Mal

because again the BNP raises many useful ideas and stories true some aint, but one of them is my above point, which is hushed for being racist, yet asians say worse and get away, so my view is the BNP should get the publicity they want and finally we English can say that the Asians we welcomed are being racist to us and not it being a one sided battle.

**Stuart C** · 05-02-2005, 22:16

While I do not agree with the BNP ( I do think racism is bad), I don't believe ANY political party should be denied publicity. Democracy does not work if you do that.

Damien · 05-02-2005, 22:18

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames

Oh that it is my friend Mal

because again the BNP raises many useful ideas and stories true some aint, but one of them is my above point, which is hushed for being racist, yet asians say worse and get away, so my view is the BNP should get the publicity they want and finally we English can say that the Asians we welcomed are being racist to us and not it being a one sided battle.

Why is it always asians who get brought up when talking about rascism?

There are many other groups

anyway, I am taking my own topic way off topic. Back to the BNP....

Ramrod · 05-02-2005, 22:20

I don't think the BNP should get publicity, but neither should the extreme end of the islamic nutcases either.......just my opinion.

Mal · 05-02-2005, 22:21

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames

Oh that it is my friend Mal

because again the BNP raises many useful ideas and stories true some aint, but one of them is my above point, which is hushed for being racist, yet asians say worse and get away, so my view is the BNP should get the publicity they want and finally we English can say that the Asians we welcomed are being racist to us and not it being a one sided battle.

You've now gotten on topic with that post. Your previous one was not.

I believe that they should, but not for the above reason. As scastle said, democracy doesn't work if anyone is denied publicity. If you don't agree with a said party, you should go canvassing(sp?) for your party, so they don't get in.

Damien · 05-02-2005, 22:22

But at the end of the day it would likely give more power to the bnp

Mal · 05-02-2005, 22:27

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Originally Posted by Damien

But at the end of the day it would likely give more power to the bnp

Freedom of choice/speech. You may not agree with them, but that's their opinion, good or bad.

Who would get the responsibility to say, your banned and how would we decide what was banned?

If they don't get the publicity, people won't see what they are like.

AndrewJ · 05-02-2005, 22:31

Mal I get alot of jeers sometimes but on back of my old car I had a vote BNP sticker on it

As for above sorry for making it unclear shall look and finish it off next time

kronas · 05-02-2005, 22:34

im afraid to say i dont stand with giving the BNP the democratic right of the press and freedom as other parties do, the diffarence between 'democratic' parties and the BNP is that the BNP is hell bent on kicking out non-white people out of the country....... i also dont agree with them on a number of issues abortion etc.