Sun's Apology

smicer07 · 07-07-2004, 09:50

The S*n have made an "apology" to all Merseysiders as regards their disgraceful stories about the Hillsborough disaster. For those who don't know, this is still a massive issue on Merseyside, with families of the dead fighting for justice.

S*n article today- http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3...311282,00.html

S*n article about Hillsborough- http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/media.shtm

More info: http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough

What do other fans think of this "apology"????

scrotnig · 07-07-2004, 09:51

I am sure it IS a massive issue but that doesn't excuse the foul language, thanks.

smicer07 · 07-07-2004, 09:53

Language pails into insignificance when talking about human lives I'm afraid.

**Jefferson T** · 07-07-2004, 09:54

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Originally Posted by smicer07

Language pails into insignificance when talking about human lives I'm afraid.

Does it?

scrotnig · 07-07-2004, 09:54

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Originally Posted by smicer07

Language pails into insignificance when talking about human lives I'm afraid.

Sorry, I'm only interested if you can express yourself without the filthy dialectical verbiage.

07-07-2004, 09:58

Fighting for justice?? So your going to prosicute the police AND all those people that turned up without tickets?

TheBlueRaja · 07-07-2004, 10:00

Easy peeps, he has a vaild point - perhaps his language is a bit OTT, but we've all been guilty of than when were passionate about something.

Anything that brings the hypocracy of tabloid newspapers into the limelight is good by me.

**Jefferson T** · 07-07-2004, 10:01

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Originally Posted by theblueraja

Easy peeps, he has a vaild point - perhaps his language is a bit OTT, but we've all been guilty of than when were passionate about something.

No we haven't

Simon M · 07-07-2004, 10:07

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**Chris T** · 07-07-2004, 10:09

It is still a burning issue in Liverpool, but as the Sun says, it was 15 years ago. How many of the people who work at the Sun now were there then? Surely the staff must have almost completely changed, so what is there left to fight against?

Honestly, the stubbornness of the scouse mind is something to behold. Anybody know if any of those sacked dockers are still 'on strike' and picketing the gates at Crosby?

The city of Liverpool is like a child repeatedly poking at an old wound, breaking the scab and refusing it to allow to heal. Taking this out on Wayne Rooney really is plumbing the depths, and if anybody thinks they are somehow honouring the memory of the dead by doing this, then frankly they need help.

Bex · 07-07-2004, 10:15

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Originally Posted by towny

It is still a burning issue in Liverpool, but as the Sun says, it was 15 years ago. How many of the people who work at the Sun now were there then? Surely the staff must have almost completely changed, so what is there left to fight against?

Honestly, the stubbornness of the scouse mind is something to behold. Anybody know if any of those sacked dockers are still 'on strike' and picketing the gates at Crosby?

The city of Liverpool is like a child repeatedly poking at an old wound, breaking the scab and refusing it to allow to heal. Taking this out on Wayne Rooney really is plumbing the depths, and if anybody thinks they are somehow honouring the memory of the dead by doing this, then frankly they need help.

i have to agree with you towny. my first thought was also that the same journalists who wrote the original story wouldn't be there.

and i agree with you on the issue of rooney, as the article says he was only 3 at the time of the incident, so why do people have an issue with him?

smicer07 · 07-07-2004, 10:16

If any of you people had lost close family in this disaster, your views would be completely different.
http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough Read and learn.

07-07-2004, 10:21

It was 15 years ago, the papers got it wrong it admitteded it. Move on, get on with your lives. Hillsbrough happened, it was a tragedy it is now over and the pour souls are laid to rest.
It wasnt the first it wont be the last, just move along.

As for losing close people in disasters, I lost a friend of a friend in Sept 11th (not exactly close I agree but shocking never the less), and also a friend in piper alpha.

Dragging the same old stories up from the times these happened is not going to make the slightest bit of difference to anyone, some will find offensive remarks wherever they read, the Sun was wrong, it said so. End of story. If the people of Liverpool cant get over it after 15 years then I suggest they need further councilling.

SMHarman · 07-07-2004, 10:23

The Suns apology that takes a whole page, is well written and I'm sure every word in it was considered and considered again (a bit like the Queens speech yesterday).

It makes a very valid point that the coverage that upset Liverpool occurred 15 years ago. Since then the paper has pretty much replaced its entire editorial staff, the editor of the paper has most certainly changed, and the current editor was a 20 year old student, I imagine studying political or press type things and probably as outraged as Liverpool was at the time.

The other reason this has come bubbling back to the surface is Wayne Rooneys interviews with them, locals and local papers (owned by Trinity Mirror (owner of arch rival Daily Mirror newspaper)) are acusing him of selling his soul for 30 pieces of silver.

Although he must be acutly aware of the backstory now, he was three when this all happened. Is it really fair to try to use him to stir this all up again?

As the queen said yesterday about another rift
"Of course there were difficult times, but memories mellow with the passing of the years."
Perhaps outraged of Liverpool should stop for a moment and consider this statement.

EDIT - and if we're all comparing losses in tragedy, a former employer of mine lost many, many of which I had worked with in my role with them. Personally there were an equal number of miracal survivors as there were deaths, a friend whose wife had been induced on September 10th so was at hospital with her, rather than at work, working and waiting for that call.
http://memorial.mmc.com/

**Chris T** · 07-07-2004, 10:26

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Originally Posted by smicer07

If any of you people had lost close family in this disaster, your views would be completely different.
http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough Read and learn.

A sweeping generalisation you can't possibly have any proof of, and which totally misses the point.

Firstly, the Liverpool Supporters Club has members further afield than the Pier Head. Don't assume we don't understand - or weren't affected - just because we are not from Liverpool.

Secondly, no-one is saying that the Sun's article back in 1989 was not disgusting. It was. What we are saying is that nurturing the hurt and continuing a vendetta fifteen years later diminishes you as a person, does nothing to honour the dead and has little impact on the Sun because almost nobody working for the newspaper back then is there now.

I might not have lost a close relative in that disaster, but actually I have had tragedy in my life, and so have most other people, so I fully understand the long-term effects of emotional trauma. You live with it, you cope with it, and in time if you let it, it fades. If you don't let it, then it becomes who you are. And you don't want that. The person you lost in that disaster could not possibly want you to spend the rest of your life living like that.