not new, but one to show the 'backwardness'

kronas · 29-04-2004, 20:41

a turkish father and his relatives have been held on possible charges of murder, after it was found there 14 year old daughter was raped, a decision was made by the father and his accomplices to 'kill' her in a honour killing, police were tipped off about the actions being taken and arrested them.

later, the father reported her missing, but confessed to the murder......

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A few days after her return, the father reported her missing - but allegedly confessed to killing her later.

The Milliyet newspaper said she was strangled with a wire and buried in a forest

source: BBC news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3667897.stm

it makes me sick, to even kill your own, why??????????????

MadGamer · 29-04-2004, 20:42

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Originally Posted by kronas

a turkish father and his relatives have been held on possible charges of murder, after it was found there 14 year old daughter was raped, a decision was made by the father and his accomplices to 'kill' her in a honour killing, police were tipped off about the actions being taken and arrested them.

later, the father reported her missing, but confessed to the murder......

source: BBC news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3667897.stm

it makes me sick, to even kill your own, why??????????????

That is just terrible.

Paul · 29-04-2004, 20:45

Different religions/ races have different views on what is "right" or "proper". What seems totally unacceptable to us, seems totally correct and sensible to them.
One persons idea of what is right can often seem non-sensical to many others. This sort of behavious has, unfortunately, happened many times in the past and no doubt will happen again

kronas · 29-04-2004, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Paul

Different religions/ races have different views on what is "right" or "proper". What seems totally unacceptable to us, seems totally correct and sensible to them.

to kill your own....... because she was raped ? to even kill your own ? how can anyone justify that ?

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Originally Posted by Paul

One persons idea of what is right can often seem non-sensical to many others. This sort of behavious has, unfortunately, happened many times in the past and no doubt will happen again

as i said above, and no excuses can even justify things like these......

**Matt D** · 29-04-2004, 20:53

Horrible, unjustifiable, & not at all uncommon

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3494270.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3523123.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3480321.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3475189.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3400869.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3234938.stm

That's just from a quick search of the BBC News site...

Paul · 29-04-2004, 20:54

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Originally Posted by kronas

to kill your own....... because she was raped ? to even kill your own ? how can anyone justify that ?

as i said above, and no excuses can even justify things like these......

Some races/ religions would see the victim of rape as beng "dis-honoured" and thus would bring dis-honour onto the family. Honour is "All" in some societies and therefore can bring some very strange "solutions" to the "problem". These solutions can be anything from the family dis-owning the victim to this terrible act of murder

No one here is trying to justify it Kronas

Xaccers · 29-04-2004, 21:01

No one is trying to justify it Kronas.
Paul just gave a valid explaination, answering your question.

kronas · 29-04-2004, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

No one is trying to justify it Kronas.
Paul just gave a valid explaination, answering your question.

i know

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Originally Posted by Paul

Some races/ religions would see the victim of rape as beng "dis-honoured" and thus would bring dis-honour onto the family. Honour is "All" in some societies and therefore can bring some very strange "solutions" to the "problem". These solutions can be anything from the family dis-owning the victim to this terrible act of murder

No one here is trying to justify it Kronas

true, it makes me sick thats all, i do know what you were saying.....

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Originally Posted by Tezcatlipoca

Horrible, unjustifiable, & not at all uncommon

That's just from a quick search of the BBC News site...

i did say it was not new

Xaccers · 29-04-2004, 21:13

In these cultures living with the shame of dishonour (I know as the victim to you and I we don't see how they can be dishonoured) is a fate worse than death, and they would be shocked that we in the west don't do the same, possibly even disgusted at our sick attitude of allowing the girl to live with "such shame"

Paul · 29-04-2004, 21:24

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

No one is trying to justify it Kronas.
Paul just gave a valid explaination, answering your question.

Don't worry Xaccers, I know that Kronas is just discussing the news story

Threads like these can often lead to mis-understandings or mis-interpretations, that's part of the fun LOL

kronas · 29-04-2004, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Paul

Don't worry Xaccers, I know that Kronas is just discussing the news story

Threads like these can often lead to mis-understandings or mis-interpretations, that's part of the fun LOL

yep, im often trying to open up avenues of discussion, even if some are wrong