Vista compatability - Page 2

zinglebarb · 15-09-2006, 10:46

But that would mean micro$oft giving access to the planed security to software companies that would involve efficient organisation and it is M$ we are talking about lol lol

**Stuart C** · 15-09-2006, 11:06

Not really. The vista security system was in an early beta. All it required was for companies to actually test that their software worked with it.

And, TBH, some software (particularly games) has trouble running on non-admin accounts under XP. Bearing mind that XP uses the same security restrictions that NT used from the early 90s, there really is bo excuse..

zinglebarb · 15-09-2006, 11:17

ok fair enough im gutted cuz prey wont work for me but it was installed under xp on a slave drive most stuffs ok though.Im still triple booting using xp64 mostly xp32 sometimes and vista if i fancy a change lol

NitroNutter · 15-09-2006, 12:01

Well having played with Vista some its a very good upgrade over XP but I feel its a doomed OS in the fact that its going try to control in an all round manner what the end user does with it by extending the DRM technology way to far and any application it doesnt like will be blocked from running full stop. I can see where this business model is coming from as software authors , maybe with vista or maybe the next version of windows will be needing to subscribe financially to the OS to write for it and by return MS will guarantee blocking anything not appearing ligitimate. If all this isnt implemented in vista it wont be long before its either aded to it or much fuller DRM becomes completely integrated to the next version of windows beyond vista. What will this mean, it means when the next gen decrypters come round ie as a cheaply named potential example, a future application say BD-Decrypter this application will be blocked from running and so on. Theres a long bumpy road ahead aswell as for open source programmers and probably even visual source programming as the only way such extensive restrictions can work is to kill the alternatives, the only way to kill alternatives will be to outlaw them. Vista I see as the begining of attempting to bring this about, although it has been the model schemed for a long time by creating oem alliances and having the earlier versions od windows easily copy able was the real begining the real goal is now very easily visible.

In short if vista is backed by the consumer it will ultimately ensure MS has a finger in every single software pie in existance including movies and music. Alternatives will be deemed illegal with the main reasoning that they can be used to break DRM, thereby open source would be akin to a software mod like consoles have managed to get hardware modchips an illegal comodity. Even worse, if MS doesnt like some new creativity it wont get through, just as today and has been for a long time many radio stations play only whats thrown at them by the larger publishing houses.

Could well be why it was apptly codenamed "longhorn"

zinglebarb · 18-09-2006, 11:07

Under Vista x64

Adaware pro works
Newsbin 5 works
Reget 4 works
Office 2007 rc1 works (it should do lol )
Window washer 6 works
Nero 6 does work but wont install (use copy from different install)
Fear combat works
MOH spearhead works
winrar 4.6 corp works
powerdvd 7 works
Catalyst control centre had to be installed from excalibur 64 folder inside extract directory it would not install from normal wizard
The all seeing eye works
Epson r300 has generic drivers
MSN live messenger works (it should)
Trillion works but complains on install
GTR2 works
Elder scrolls oblivion works

Diskeeper 10 does not work
Half life ep 1 does not run
Daemon tools does not work blocked by vista this is also the case with 32 bit vista however version 3.41 works (emulation is out of date however)
Alcohol 120 % does not work
Paragon drive back up 8 does not work

zinglebarb · 18-09-2006, 18:28

all see eye does not work
Ironically enough msn messenger is very buggy

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I cant believe how much ram this system is utilising.I rum 2 gig of ddr 667 in dual channel and its using 71 % physical memory and 1.7 gig page file

Im only running basic apps and IE and media player

KingPhoenix · 19-09-2006, 15:44

Thats beta software for you

Full of memory leaks etc

TheBlueRaja · 19-09-2006, 15:48

Probably all that "working" software he's using

zinglebarb · 19-09-2006, 15:57

no the system runs sweet I think its caching everything and retaining a lot of processes in ram

but I would imagine as kp says memory leaks could account for a good portion of it and BJ ive edited my start up so its not all running lol lol

TheBlueRaja · 19-09-2006, 17:04

If you call me BJ again i swear to god i'll virtually kick your ass with a large jpg image of a boot!

zinglebarb · 19-09-2006, 17:51

heheheheheheh sorry BJ

ssdd · 04-10-2006, 01:09

Been having a play with this for the last few days and found the following.

Nero 7 does not work (as said before) but did manage to install version 6
Zone Alarm does not work
Nod 32 does not work

Also, installed my printer, Epson Stylus Photo 220 and that worked
but the status monitor didn't.

Decided to pack up after that, not much fun trying to work out which
ink cart was empty (suppose I had a one in six chance)

zinglebarb · 04-10-2006, 08:51

run a head check that will show ya

also there is a little epson widget that works better I may have uploaded it here a good while ago

might work http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml

**Stuart C** · 30-10-2006, 14:25

Well, just found something that is incompatible with Vista. I have a nice nforce3 chipset with onboard networking. Trouble is, the onboard NIC died a couple of weeks back. No problem, I thought. I have an unused 3com 3c905 sitting in one of my machines (It also has a wireless network card, as I don't have enough sockets on the router for it). Guess what: The 3C905 doesn't work in ANY 64 bit edition of Windows.

zinglebarb · 30-10-2006, 14:29

you need a realtek nic lol