25-10-2006, 17:14
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What hast thou done?
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: Which Linux?
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
I can run the CD, get into the desktop and then i tried to use a drive to install it too using the supplied utility and could i get it to install - could i hell.
Kept giving me a meaningless message which i cant even remember now.
I mean, the mind is willing but the CD's not forgiving.
Add to that, that i cant access the internet when im in it to look for answers because i have a netgear USB wireless adapter and im giving up.
There were no readme's, no userguides, no quickstarts just click and hope.
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Do your research first... 
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27-10-2006, 16:55
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#107
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Rather fruity
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Re: Which Linux?
I gave Ubuntu a go the other evening but when I booted from the CD to try it before I installed it all I got was a corrupted screen in magenta and yellow. Nothing but vertical bars broken in different places all over the screen!
Guess it doesnt like my gfx card (gforce 6600GT). 
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27-10-2006, 17:26
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#108
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cf.mega poster
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Re: Which Linux?
Strange, I've got the same card and it works fine for me. In fact, using Sabayon Linux, I get the full eye candy effect of XGL and Beryl... imagine Vista on LSD and that's what it's like with my 6600GT.
You should be able to select the VESA driver when you boot, which isn't as good-looking as the Nvidia driver, but will at least allow you to boot the system and then you can work at getting the proper drivers working.
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27-10-2006, 18:52
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Re: Which Linux?
http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/...wubuntu_1.html
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Ubuntu releases new distribution
Improvements in interface aimed at expanding user base and running more major applications
By John Yarney, IDG News Service
October 26, 2006
Linux users have a new option available with Thursday's release of the desktop and server versions of Ubuntu version 6.10Ubuntu version 6.10, featuring a revamped interface, faster boot-up and added applications. The release comes as Oracle Corp. denies rumors that it is integrating Ubuntu into its offerings"
Sabayon Linux? direct url.....
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27-10-2006, 19:15
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#110
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cf.mega poster
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Re: Which Linux?
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Originally Posted by popper
Sabayon Linux? direct url.....
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http://www.sabayonlinux.org/
It's based on Gentoo, but whereas Gentoo users normally have to compile everything Sabayon comes with everything pre-compiled. It's probably not as efficient as a system that's been compiled for your own system, but I'm not worried about that as it saves a helluva lot of time
ps - thanks for the heads-up about the new Ubuntu 
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27-10-2006, 23:25
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#111
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Re: Which Linux?
Just making a guest appearance....
Soz for the sudden departure but I wasn't serous about being a regular poster but then realised that hell I've made 100 stupid posts already !
Tis quite addictive for a first time forum user like me... Anyway having tried looking around for a new home I realised what a nice bunch you lot are and so I'll stay albeit low key.
Question in hand : What's the best Linux !
Thanks to you guys I am converted... I'm primarily using my laptop for virtually everything the faster Windoze XP desktop is gathering dust.
So what Linux works for me ? Being on a laptop I needed something fast and light that was able to take an instance of eclipse sucking 300meg along with mail, browser, JBoss server. I also wanted good package support which makes installing new software a breeze unless your happy with make menuconfig; make -j51 dep; make -j51 bzImage crap....
My bias went to the *buntu/Debian series of distros which offers around 20,000 available online packages for you to install and customise your instance of linux.
I've tried
Ubuntu : Rubbish with bundled gnome DE : Too top heavy good for the newbs.
Xubuntu : Again loaded with XFCE it was a little heavy too
Fluxbuntu : Alpha release it was lightweight but fluxbox was less integrated than the mainsteam *buntu releases - doh - Defeats the purpose of having fluxbox in the first place.
PCLinuxOS : Not quite there not as much in terms of package support. semi resource heavy.
SUSE, Redhat : They've had their day.
A few micro distros like Damn Small Linux/DSL-n/Puppy linux etc but their package support is not great
Who won ?
It had to be a KDE based distro as KDE gives you a lot more in terms of system configuration tools that even the newbies will have no problem finding and or using.
Kubuntu absolutely sweet even in full mode I just love Konqueror its faster than firefox and doubles as an excellent file manager - kick nautilus and windows file explorer in the teeth.
Having said that I did strip Kubuntu down to what I needed.
Killed crap out of rc.d boot time is now 40 seconds compared to the 1minute I was getting when I first installed it.
Login manager is XDM killed off KDE.
Windows Manger is Fluxbox but I did also start up a few KDE items of use without loading up the full desktop environment.
ie Fluxbox loads up and starts kicker enabling me to access the whole of KDE just in case I need it.
From boot to the point where I have my desktop up and running I am using just 130Meg of memory kinda sweet.
Cheers boys
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27-10-2006, 23:44
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Keep smiling! ♥
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Re: Which Linux?
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Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r
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From boot to the point where I have my desktop up and running I am using just 130Meg of memory kinda sweet.
Cheers boys
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I use treble that on a boot up,and it still takes about 1min 15... Memory usage right now is 554mb and i'm doing bugger all!
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27-10-2006, 23:48
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#113
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Re: Which Linux?
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Originally Posted by Druchii
I use treble that on a boot up,and it still takes about 1min 15... Memory usage right now is 554mb and i'm doing bugger all!
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ROFL and I'm on a poxy 900Mhz Centrino (actually centrinos are pretty good) with 786Meg or so RAM am only using 300Meg for web, thunderbird, shells, adept (which likes to suck memory).
I'm telling you man if I install the same setup on my desktop it would really fly.
Installing linux the way I have done gives 'Portable Desktop' a whole new meaning.
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27-10-2006, 23:49
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Keep smiling! ♥
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Re: Which Linux?
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Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r
ROFL and I'm on a poxy 900Mhz Centrino (actually centrinos are pretty good) with 786Meg or so RAM am only using 300Meg for web, thunderbird, shells, adept (which likes to suck memory).
I'm telling you man if I install the same setup on my desktop it would really fly.
Installing linux the way I have done gives 'Portable Desktop' a whole new meaning.
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Indeed it does! I have MSN open, Firefox 2 open (9 tabs) and Winamp open. Stupid mem usage tbh.
If only i could install Linux on this PC, i don't have anyway of getting it to recognise the SATA side of this PC... All LiveCD's and installs crash out on me.
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27-10-2006, 23:53
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#115
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Re: Which Linux?
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Originally Posted by Druchii
Indeed it does! I have MSN open, Firefox 2 open (9 tabs) and Winamp open. Stupid mem usage tbh.
If only i could install Linux on this PC, i don't have anyway of getting it to recognise the SATA side of this PC... All LiveCD's and installs crash out on me.
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Oh yeh forgot I'm listening to tunes too
Bummer that does sound strange are there any linux drivers for your SATA controller : If you can get them and load them into the kernel you should be set to rock n roll.
Whats your mobo / SATA controller ?
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27-10-2006, 23:54
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Keep smiling! ♥
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Re: Which Linux?
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Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r
Oh yeh forgot I'm listening to tunes too
Bummer that does sound strange are there any linux drivers for your SATA controller : If you can get them and load them into the kernel you should be set to rock n roll.
Whats your mobo / SATA controller ? |
Well, my mobo Is the Gigabyte 965p-DS3, supposedly native SATA. I've no idea on the controller off the top of my head 
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27-10-2006, 23:57
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#117
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Re: Which Linux?
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Originally Posted by Druchii
Well, my mobo Is the Gigabyte 965p-DS3, supposedly native SATA. I've no idea on the controller off the top of my head |
I'll have a quick g00gle
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Gigabyte says :
Due to different Linux support condition provided by chipset vendors, please download Linux driver from chipset vendors' website or 3rd party website.
Nope they aint promise controllers....
Looks here :
http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/sho...d.php?t=120571
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238765
I'm sure you'll find the solution : g00gle for it :p
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28-10-2006, 00:54
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#118
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cf.mega poster
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Re: Which Linux?
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28-10-2006, 01:00
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#119
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Re: Which Linux?
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Originally Posted by popper
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???? But virtual PC instances create a virtual machine new hardware new everything except maybe the harddisk.
Running linux inside this virtual machine defeats the purpose of running linux in the first place - I dont understand why you'd wanna do this ?
Good links to QNX btw
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28-10-2006, 01:03
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Keep smiling! ♥
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Re: Which Linux?
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Originally Posted by popper
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I can run stuff in Virtual Machines, i hve a knoppix virtual machine somewhere that works fine
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