Home News Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | SATA and IDE together?


You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > Computers & IT > General IT Discussion

SATA and IDE together?
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 27-01-2006, 21:42   #1
aliferste
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Glasgow
Age: 39
Posts: 1,829
aliferste has reached the bronze age
aliferste has reached the bronze agealiferste has reached the bronze agealiferste has reached the bronze age
Send a message via MSN to aliferste
SATA and IDE together?

Hiya, Just built a new comp and was wondering about something. I bought an SATA hard drive which is now up and running but was wondering if I could add a IDE hard drive at the same time ?

The other thing is that my new hard drive is 200gb however it only shows up as 150gb or something.....around that figure anyway.....any ideas ?
__________________
The Urban Fly Fisher
aliferste is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 27-01-2006, 22:04   #2
Maggy J
Cable Forum Team
 
Maggy J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: between Portsmouth and Southampton.
Age: 60
Services: VM XL TV,20 MB VM BB,VM landline.
Posts: 34,537
Maggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden aura
Maggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden aura
Re: SATA and IDE together?

Quote:
Originally Posted by aliferste
Hiya, Just built a new comp and was wondering about something. I bought an SATA hard drive which is now up and running but was wondering if I could add a IDE hard drive at the same time ?

The other thing is that my new hard drive is 200gb however it only shows up as 150gb or something.....around that figure anyway.....any ideas ?
I've now got an IDE master HD and a SATA in the same PC.Oh and I was told that the reason I couldn't have the SATA as a master was because at 160 GB it ws too big for XP home to see.
__________________
Bold=Mod possibly.One is a roar the other is a whisper BUT they both count.
Maggy J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-01-2006, 22:13   #3
Enuff
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SATA and IDE together?

I have 40gb IDE as master and a 200gb SATA as my second drive... I did have the SATA as a stand-alone master before this setup tho.
  Reply With Quote
Old 27-01-2006, 22:24   #4
nffc
cf.ChavyType
 
nffc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: chavy Nottingham
Age: 29
Services: Freeview, Sky+, 10 Mb/s NTL BB, mega PC, PSP, iPhone 3GS, your mum
Posts: 6,858
nffc has a nice shiny star
nffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny star
Re: SATA and IDE together?

Yes, but you need to make sure XP installs on the SATA and that's higher in the boot priority. I have two drives, one IDE, one SATA, both partitioned with an XP install on each, the one on SATA is much faster but the bootable one is the IDE. I obviously don't really use the other XP.
__________________

PC: i7 950, 6GB RAM, HD5450, 4.25TB HDDs, HVR1100, win7HPx64
Laptop: Asus X52F (P6100, 4GB, 320 GB, W7HPx64)
Servers: E3300, 2GB RAM, 1.8TB HDD, WHS and Sempron 3600+, 2GB, 750 GB, ub10.04
nffc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-01-2006, 22:28   #5
rtj70
Inactive
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 90
rtj70 is on a distinguished roadrtj70 is on a distinguished road
Re: SATA and IDE together?

I've now got an IDE master HD and a SATA in the same PC.Oh and I was told that the reason I couldn't have the SATA as a master was because at 160 GB it ws too big for XP home to see.

I've got XP Home quite happily booting of a 250GB drive... so XP Home not the problem there. And all hard drives on my Intel 915 motherboard are SATA.
rtj70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-01-2006, 22:32   #6
nffc
cf.ChavyType
 
nffc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: chavy Nottingham
Age: 29
Services: Freeview, Sky+, 10 Mb/s NTL BB, mega PC, PSP, iPhone 3GS, your mum
Posts: 6,858
nffc has a nice shiny star
nffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny starnffc has a nice shiny star
Re: SATA and IDE together?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
Quote:
Originally Posted by aliferste
Hiya, Just built a new comp and was wondering about something. I bought an SATA hard drive which is now up and running but was wondering if I could add a IDE hard drive at the same time ?

The other thing is that my new hard drive is 200gb however it only shows up as 150gb or something.....around that figure anyway.....any ideas ?
I've now got an IDE master HD and a SATA in the same PC.Oh and I was told that the reason I couldn't have the SATA as a master was because at 160 GB it ws too big for XP home to see.
You need to slipstream SP2 into your XP CD before that will work
__________________

PC: i7 950, 6GB RAM, HD5450, 4.25TB HDDs, HVR1100, win7HPx64
Laptop: Asus X52F (P6100, 4GB, 320 GB, W7HPx64)
Servers: E3300, 2GB RAM, 1.8TB HDD, WHS and Sempron 3600+, 2GB, 750 GB, ub10.04
nffc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-01-2006, 22:35   #7
aliferste
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Glasgow
Age: 39
Posts: 1,829
aliferste has reached the bronze age
aliferste has reached the bronze agealiferste has reached the bronze agealiferste has reached the bronze age
Send a message via MSN to aliferste
Re: SATA and IDE together?

Right have now sorted out the size problem, for some reason when I ibstalled service pack 2 it sorted itself out!

Will have a bash tommorow at installing the 2nd hard drive
__________________
The Urban Fly Fisher
aliferste is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-01-2006, 22:35   #8
Enuff
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SATA and IDE together?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rtj70
I've now got an IDE master HD and a SATA in the same PC.Oh and I was told that the reason I couldn't have the SATA as a master was because at 160 GB it ws too big for XP home to see.

I've got XP Home quite happily booting of a 250GB drive... so XP Home not the problem there. And all hard drives on my Intel 915 motherboard are SATA.
Ye I forgot to mention that, I've just had a mates PC here that I was sorting out for him which had 2 x 200gb SATA's using RAID, and his OS was XP Home...
  Reply With Quote
Old 27-01-2006, 22:36   #9
Maggy J
Cable Forum Team
 
Maggy J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: between Portsmouth and Southampton.
Age: 60
Services: VM XL TV,20 MB VM BB,VM landline.
Posts: 34,537
Maggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden aura
Maggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden auraMaggy J has a golden aura
Re: SATA and IDE together?

Well the saga of my SATA drive is not really the topic here.I was just trying to help...However I'm slowly going off the idea of DIY PC's.
__________________
Bold=Mod possibly.One is a roar the other is a whisper BUT they both count.
Maggy J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2006, 14:45   #10
rtj70
Inactive
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 90
rtj70 is on a distinguished roadrtj70 is on a distinguished road
Re: SATA and IDE together?

If the original drive was a 200Gb one, then that's disk manufacturer Gb. Computers work in binary so Windows will show you the real Gb size which is probably around 186Gb depending on who made it.

Does that clear up the question?
rtj70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2006, 14:46   #11
zing_deleted
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SATA and IDE together?

Ive got 4 sata and 3 ide in my machine
  Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2006, 14:57   #12
Enuff
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SATA and IDE together?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rtj70
If the original drive was a 200Gb one, then that's disk manufacturer Gb. Computers work in binary so Windows will show you the real Gb size which is probably around 186Gb depending on who made it.

Does that clear up the question?
ye, 1mb of hard drive space is 1048K but windows see's it as 1000K thats why u get 200gb showing as 189.5GB [approx]
  Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2006, 15:11   #13
Stuart
Cable Forum Team
 
Stuart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Sarf east Luhndun.
Services: Virgin for TV and Internet, BT for phone
Posts: 24,885
Stuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered stars
Stuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered stars
Send a message via MSN to Stuart Send a message via Skype™ to Stuart
Re: SATA and IDE together?

Actually, that's not quite right. One meg is 1024K. Windows uses this value. Hard drive manufacturers tend to use 1000K as one meg, hence they sell a hard drive that is actually 190 Meg as a 200 Meg drive.
Stuart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2006, 15:15   #14
zing_deleted
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SATA and IDE together?

ive learnt something new now .I thought the space was lost in the writing of file tables and the like thats not seen
  Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2006, 16:20   #15
Stuart
Cable Forum Team
 
Stuart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Sarf east Luhndun.
Services: Virgin for TV and Internet, BT for phone
Posts: 24,885
Stuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered stars
Stuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered starsStuart is seeing silvered stars
Send a message via MSN to Stuart Send a message via Skype™ to Stuart
Re: SATA and IDE together?

Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb
ive learnt something new now .I thought the space was lost in the writing of file tables and the like thats not seen

Actually, I was over simplifying.. HDDs do use a lot of space for file tables etc, but HDD manufacturers have also been known to use the 1 Meg = 1000 K measurement.
Stuart is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Google Search




All times are GMT. The time now is 10:23.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2003 - 2012, Cable Forum.
(server5.cableforum.co.uk)

SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2