Trouble with Ubuntu - Page 2

xpod · 10-03-2010, 23:42

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Originally Posted by Frankie07

Wired.

So i changed to Linux Mint, it seems to be the very similar to ubuntu, im getting the exact same problem with this

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tried that and i got this -

frankie@frankie-desktop ~ $ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[sudo] password for frankie:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libmp4v2-0 ttf-mscorefonts-installer
The following NEW packages will be installed
libmp4v2-0 ttf-mscorefonts-installer ubuntu-restricted-extras
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 101 not upgraded.
E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the download directory[COLOR="Silver"]

That`s generally the type of error you get when you have two different programs trying to use apt at the same time.You dont have Synaptic or something else that uses apt open at the same time do you?

Failing that you could try removing the lock file, as long as you know there`s nothing using apt at the time of course...

Code:

sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock

iFrankie · 11-03-2010, 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod

That`s generally the type of error you get when you have two different programs trying to use apt at the same time.You dont have Synaptic or something else that uses apt open at the same time do you?

Failing that you could try removing the lock file, as long as you know there`s nothing using apt at the time of course...

Code:

sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock

i entered that into terminal, it asked for a the password and nothing came up afterwards, i re entered sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras, and i got this

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libmp4v2-0 ttf-mscorefonts-installer
The following NEW packages will be installed
libmp4v2-0 ttf-mscorefonts-installer ubuntu-restricted-extras
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 101 not upgraded.
Need to get 343kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,151kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
libmp4v2-0 ttf-mscorefonts-installer ubuntu-restricted-extras
Authentication warning overridden.
0% [Waiting for headers]

its just stuck at 0%, should i not of done this yet?

Ben B · 11-03-2010, 00:03

Stick with Windows!

iFrankie · 11-03-2010, 00:04

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Originally Posted by Ben B

Stick with Windows!

lol, im just experimenting! and to further my knowledge

xpod · 11-03-2010, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B

Stick with Windows!

ooooo.....at least let Frankie07 pull some clumps out first, if of course he still has any.

Quote:

lol, im just experimenting! and to further my knowledge

That`s the best attitude to try with.
Just trying Linux out should be bit of fun at the end of the day and as long as your not messing around with any mission critical machines then you cant do any real harm....unless you end up lobbing the machine out the windows rather than just sticking with Windows, if or when it all gets too much.
If you are messing about on important machines though, like some often do, then you may need to rethink your position.........in the company. ;-)

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its just stuck at 0%, should i not of done this yet?

See above.....
You cant do any real harm, besides, the more problems and errors you get the more you`ll learn along the way....or the quicker you`ll be back to Windows.

Are you sure your Internet is connected and working before your trying to download stuff. Can you browse, Ping Google etc. It just seems strange you having similar connectivity issues on different(albeit the same) systems.

iFrankie · 11-03-2010, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod

ooooo.....at least let Frankie07 pull some clumps out first, if of course he still has any.

That`s the best attitude to try with.
Just trying Linux out should be bit of fun at the end of the day and as long as your not messing around with any mission critical machines then you cant do any real harm....unless you end up lobbing the machine out the windows rather than just sticking with Windows, if or when it all gets too much.
If you are messing about on important machines though, like some often do, then you may need to rethink your position.........in the company. ;-)

See above.....
You cant do any real harm, besides, the more problems and errors you get the more you`ll learn along the way....or the quicker you`ll be back to Windows.

Are you sure your Internet is connected and working before your trying to download stuff. Can you browse, Ping Google etc. It just seems strange you having similar connectivity issues on different(albeit the same) systems.

I think i will end up going back to windows! lol.

I pinged google using the network tools and it was successful, when the OS starts a little box comes up from the tool bar saying connection established.

The only problem is browing websites with flash, and downloading updates and software from the software manager.

xpod · 11-03-2010, 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie07

I think i will end up going back to windows! lol.

I pinged google using the network tools and it was successful, when the OS starts a little box comes up from the tool bar saying connection established.

The only problem is browing websites with flash, and downloading updates and software from the software manager.

Nobody would need to "go back" to Windows if they never left(deleted) Windows in the first place. It would actually be quite mad not to keep Windows in a situation where that`s all you`d used that for years & years.
Not saying that`s what you`ve done of course(tell me it`s not.. :-)) but some crazy folks do decide to try Linux then go right ahead and completely wipe that Windows partition, without any clear cut way of re-installing it if & when things go wrong.

Can you try updating/upgrading in the terminal, just to see any(more) errors that are spat back.

Quote:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

iFrankie · 11-03-2010, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod

Nobody would need to "go back" to Windows if they never left(deleted) Windows in the first place. It would actually be quite mad not to keep Windows in a situation where that`s all you`d used that for years & years.
Not saying that`s what you`ve done of course(tell me it`s not.. :-)) but some crazy folks do decide to try Linux then go right ahead and completely wipe that Windows partition, without any clear cut way of re-installing it if & when things go wrong.

Can you try updating/upgrading in the terminal, just to see any(more) errors that are spat back.

No, i still have windows on partion, i did what you said and i got this

Get: 1 http://archive.canonical.com karmic Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://archive.canonical.com karmic/partner Translation-en_GB
Get: 2 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic Release.gpg [189B]
Get: 3 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [189B]
Get: 4 http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Translation-en_GB
Get: 5 http://packages.linuxmint.com helena Release.gpg [198B]
Get: 6 http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic Release.gpg [197B]
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic/free Translation-en_GB
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com helena/main Translation-en_GB
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com helena/upstream Translation-en_GB
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com helena/import Translation-en_GB
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic/non-free Translation-en_GB
98% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting}

i've figured out how to view websites in text format from google, i had to click on cached under the search result, i found that some other people have had this problem and all they did was change the MTU in the network settings, i did that and failed

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SOLVED!!!!! i changed the MTU to 1456, everything is working perfect now, updates are downloading too.

Thank you everyone.

xpod · 11-03-2010, 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie07

No, i still have windows on partion, i did what you said and i got this

Get: 1 http://archive.canonical.com karmic Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://archive.canonical.com karmic/partner Translation-en_GB
Get: 2 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic Release.gpg [189B]
Get: 3 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [189B]
Get: 4 http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Translation-en_GB
Get: 5 http://packages.linuxmint.com helena Release.gpg [198B]
Get: 6 http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic Release.gpg [197B]
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic/free Translation-en_GB
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com helena/main Translation-en_GB
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com helena/upstream Translation-en_GB
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com helena/import Translation-en_GB
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic/non-free Translation-en_GB
98% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting}

i've figured out how to view websites in text format from google, i had to click on cached under the search result, i found that some other people have had this problem and all they did was change the MTU in the network settings, i did that and failed

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SOLVED!!!!! i changed the MTU to 1456, everything is working perfect now, updates are downloading too.

Thank you everyone.

Good stuff.
Windows will have to wait a while yet eh

Matty_ · 11-03-2010, 12:52

Hi xpod, i`ve just recently installed Ubuntu on an old computer which i had lying around and there seemed to be a few graphics problems. The graphics card is a very old S3 Virge DX (pci slot, not AGP) and it seems like there is a problem with the refresh rate which is making the screen flicker like mad whenever i move the mouse or do anything.
Also when you first have to put your password in the screen is barely readable but once in i can change the rate to 60Hz and at least it`s readable.

Any pointers on the best way to go? I to would like have some fun

Sorry for Jumping in on this thread Mods if you feel a new thread is required just say so.

Matty

p.s. I`m just gonna hook it up so be back in a tick

xpod · 11-03-2010, 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty_

Hi xpod, i`ve just recently installed Ubuntu on an old computer which i had lying around and there seemed to be a few graphics problems. The graphics card is a very old S3 Virge DX (pci slot, not AGP) and it seems like there is a problem with the refresh rate which is making the screen flicker like mad whenever i move the mouse or do anything.
Also when you first have to put your password in the screen is barely readable but once in i can change the rate to 60Hz and at least it`s readable.

Any pointers on the best way to go? I to would like have some fun

Sorry for Jumping in on this thread Mods if you feel a new thread is required just say so.

Matty

p.s. I`m just gonna hook it up so be back in a tick

Exactly how old is this old machine Matty? What are the rest of the specs? Full blown Ubuntu with the Gnome Desktop Environment is not really the best choice for those really old machines.

Matty_ · 11-03-2010, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod

Exactly how old is this old machine Matty? What are the rest of the specs? Full blown Ubuntu with the Gnome Desktop Environment is not really the best choice for those really old machines.

Old, old, Celeron 1.3 Ghz, 384MB Ram,40meg HD, old graphics card.

It`s strange that when i boot from live CD all seems fine, allthough i think you maybe right, might give Mint or PClinux a bash.

Everything else seems fine just this screen flicker problem, if i set it to a lower resolution it does work better but then i lose half the screen

I`ve tried to locate a driver and install but it says no proprietary installed.

XP worked fine on it but i suppose that`s because most stuff is designed for Microsoft

admars · 11-03-2010, 20:07

mu PII 450 struggles with any Ubuntu or variant of it. I may try lubutnu at the weekend, but Ubuntu does have lots of bloat other than WM/DE, even Flux Mint was bad on that PC.

sidux was pretty good, based on unstable debian on that PC using XFCE which was bad on Ubuntu on same PC.

I'd suggest distros using LXDE, i find that has a good compromise of speed, looks and functionality.

I've tried loads of Linuxes on that PC and for speed and ease of use I always end up going back to XP

distros like Puppy fly on it though.

xpod · 11-03-2010, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty_

Old, old, Celeron 1.3 Ghz, 384MB Ram,40meg HD, old graphics card.

It`s strange that when i boot from live CD all seems fine, allthough i think you maybe right, might give Mint or PClinux a bash.

Everything else seems fine just this screen flicker problem, if i set it to a lower resolution it does work better but then i lose half the screen

I`ve tried to locate a driver and install but it says no proprietary installed.

XP worked fine on it but i suppose that`s because most stuff is designed for Microsoft

If you were to go purely on the recommended minimum requirements then you actually have more than enough but personally i would still go with something a little lighter.

You wont find any propriety driver in the Hardware Drivers Manager but the driver should already be installed.

Like admars has suggested though possibly something using lxde or similar would be far better. Mint & PCLinuxOS are probably as heavy as Ubuntu, if not more so.
I`m still using the Lubuntu-desktop package atop the mini-iso on my own old laptop.......although not quite as old as those mentioned with 1.73Ghz & 512MB...and although i was only having a wee look at the time i`ve just never got back round to changing it back. In fact i cant even remember exactly what pic n mix i had on there before.

Matty_ · 12-03-2010, 12:34

It`s an issue with that particular card that seems to be causing it, that seems the consensus after a lot of googleing and reading posts. Shame the mother board only has PCI slots as i`ve got spare AGP cards. Still this might just give the excuse i`ve been waiting for to upgrade my own mother board/GFX

I`m not one of these that want`s the latest and greatest, i think most of it just marketing blah blah and doesn`t make much difference (if your not a pc gamer)

Cheers for the info, i`ll take a look at LXDE, certainly liked what i saw compared to when i last tried it several years ago, seems more polished/finished!