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28-08-2010, 19:36

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Originally Posted by chrisjones

Forget about it, I'm not fueling one of your never ending ego trips...

blah blah..

You asked how do do it, he told you, you didn't understand, he then (wisely) advised you to leave things alone

- bearing in mind you can fry your cpu if you do it wrong how is that an 'ego trip'?

Let me repeat it, if you don't know what you are doing to the point of not even understanding the instructions - then leave it alone ...

chrisjones · 28-08-2010, 19:43

Because I've been coming here long enough to have experienced it first hand in the past.

There's no doubting the guy knows his stuff, but at times he's far too clever arse about it. I'm not interested in someone trying to to rub it in that I'm not that knowledgeable, rather I would preffer to learn by way of sensible answers.
Think about it. If the last time I overclocked was way back when P3's were the rage, clearly it's not something I dabble in frequently. That said I'm not some total noob and I'm more than cabable of learning should people be nice enough to not be condescending with their replies!

28-08-2010, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisjones

Because I've been coming here long enough to have experienced it first hand in the past.

There's no doubting the guy knows his stuff, but at times he's far too clever arse about it. I'm not interested in someone trying to to rub it in that I'm not that knowledgeable, rather I would preffer to learn by way of sensible answers.
Think about it. If the last time I overclocked was way back when P3's were the rage, clearly it's not something I dabble in frequently. That said I'm not some total noob and I'm more than cabable of learning should people be nice enough to not be condescending with their replies!

he wasn't condescending, he gave clear instructions - which you didn't understand, common sense should tell you to leave well alone irrespective of who replied to your post.

The benefits of overclocking are not worth the expense of making a mistake, in my opinion.

28-08-2010, 19:55

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Originally Posted by gazfan

he wasn't condescending, he gave clear instructions - which you didn't understand, common sense should tell you to leave well alone irrespective of who replied to your post.

The benefits of overclocking are not worth the expense of making a mistake, in my opinion.

exactly

chrisjones · 28-08-2010, 21:53

If nothing else take this on board.

It would have taken nothing to reply

"Oh sorry, I presumed you would have understood my instructions, in that case you need to do X, Y and Z".... rather you decided that because I dont currently understand how to overclock, it must be way above me and not worth explaining.

That said it doesnt matter now, I took the matter up on another board and recieved a sensible, none judgemental answer.

Yes I respect your knowledge, but please remember you had to learn at some point and I would expect that at times you had questions?

28-08-2010, 22:19

look dude you told us you had overclocked in the bios.

If anything overclocking would have been harder back then as around the time of the p3 and k6 amd chips a lot of the settings were hardware on the motherboard. Voltages for example used to be on the board jumpered. You say you are not a noob and you have experience but you didnt seem to recognise what FSB means or vcore. Anyone who had overclocked or had a little system building experience should know what I was saying otherwise how do you go about setting up a system?

I also explained to you that the results would be slight and I explained to you why again any none noob would know the FSB times the Multiplier = end frequency of the cpu so when I explained the low multiplier of the D intel pentiums ( except the 805D) you should have understood that you would have had to raise the FSB quite high to get any reasonable result

My advice was perfectly correct,The overclocking advice was correct as was my warning when I realised you had no idea what you were doing

Yes I am condescending now but that is because you have had a pop at me. If you had no exaggerated your experience this would not have happened

I am more than happy to simplify my advice to those who admit they know little but someone who openly says they have knowledge then it could be seen as patronising if I did so in this situation I had no chance

chrisjones · 28-08-2010, 22:35

At what point did I exagerate my experience? I in fact stated it had been a longtime since I dabbled with over locking hense me asking questions.

Look back to my original post, it's clear that whilst I'm not a super expert like your goodself, I'm not a complete clueless noob either...

All I'm suggesting is think about how you address people, for all your knowledge and experience you do have a tendency to deliver your point quit abruptly.

I've had more than a few PM's from others along the same lines, and no I'm not stirring, they took it upon themselves to PM I'm guessing to back me up.

Look your clearly a clever guy, you obviously want to help but you need to think about the people in the middle ground that are trying to learn.

28-08-2010, 22:41

IF you dabbled in overclocking in the past then you should have at least known that my post was on about overclocking. I stand by that.

The fact you reacted how you did with no idea what I was on about I advised you leave it alone I stand by that also

---------- Post added at 22:41 ---------- Previous post was at 22:40 ----------

to those who backed you up as you call it feel free to post this is only a forum

chrisjones · 28-08-2010, 22:44

I didn't say I didn't understand, what I stated was I didn't know how to go about making those changes.
Were talking a few tweaks in bios that I played around with, hense me saying 'dabbled', your still trying to claim I exaggerated my experience!?!? Cummon..

**Rob** · 28-08-2010, 22:52

Time to move on guys

I'd suggest that there are a number of websites and forums where there will be a number of guides as to ways and means of overclocking your PC. You might even want to start somewhere like this: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=17612922

Personally speaking, every time I've tried to squeeze that tad more performance from my PC, whatever hardware I've got, I've found it to be more trouble than it's worth and unstable. If you really need the performance of overclocking, you need to upgrade your hardware.

**Paul M** · 28-08-2010, 23:00

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Originally Posted by chrisjones

Forget about it, I'm not fueling one of your never ending ego trips...

blah blah..

I think you need to take a step back. Having now read the last few posts, I cant see anything wrong with the replies you were given, and certainly nothing to warrant the personal remarks (which btw, almost got you an infraction). Another thing - in future, try not to report a year old post.

chrisjones · 29-08-2010, 12:07

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Originally Posted by zing

and thats what I am answering. If you do not know what I am on about leave it alone

So you don't think this is at all condescending?

**Kymmy** · 29-08-2010, 12:16

Not at all, I think Zing was giving you sound advice purely due to the ease at which an overclocker can blow up their CPU/Motherboard/Ram/GPU or even PSU..

Overclocking is an art and different from set-up to set-up and given your set-up and experience I'd suggest that if you try it you're likely to end up with a non-working or at very least an unstable system

damien c · 29-08-2010, 12:37

If you want advice on how to overclock then I would suggest posting on the overclocker's forum, with make and model of your motherboard, cpu type and model, ram type speed and model etc etc oh and your psu spec make and model and wattage.

A low powerd cheep psu will limit the overclock.
A cheap motherboard with not many option's actually open in the bios will limit the overclock, that is also a generic motherboard.
Low speed and cheap ram will limit the overclock.
Poor cooling will limit the overclock and don't use the stock cooler.

Not saying that your pc is cheap before you think that but I learnt the hardway what using cheap component's will do when trying to overclock.

If the pc was bought from a shop and not built by yourself then you will probably only get 100 - 200mhz faster out of the chip, it may be worth while looking at saving for a new pc and buy a pre overclocked system then you, don't need to worry about taking things to far and risking burning or blowing something up.

chrisjones · 07-09-2010, 08:15

Many thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by damien c

If you want advice on how to overclock then I would suggest posting on the overclocker's forum, with make and model of your motherboard, cpu type and model, ram type speed and model etc etc oh and your psu spec make and model and wattage.

A low powerd cheep psu will limit the overclock.
A cheap motherboard with not many option's actually open in the bios will limit the overclock, that is also a generic motherboard.
Low speed and cheap ram will limit the overclock.
Poor cooling will limit the overclock and don't use the stock cooler.

Not saying that your pc is cheap before you think that but I learnt the hardway what using cheap component's will do when trying to overclock.

If the pc was bought from a shop and not built by yourself then you will probably only get 100 - 200mhz faster out of the chip, it may be worth while looking at saving for a new pc and buy a pre overclocked system then you, don't need to worry about taking things to far and risking burning or blowing something up.