Home web server

SpyJoe · 16-05-2008, 00:13

Hi everyone, i'm trying to make a home web server. I installed Apache, PHP, MySQL, PHPMyAdmin and some other things. I can view my website on localhost and everything is fine...

What I'm trying to do now is to make my website available to users outside my machine. What I was told to do is to type http:// followed by my IP, which I did, but still it doesn't show up. I tried turning off my firewall, but that didn't help.

Could it be an issue with Virgin Media? Do they allow inbound traffic on port 80? What can I do to fix this?

I'm on Win Xp Pro SP2, windows firewall is off, i'm using sygate firewall pro...

**Graham M** · 16-05-2008, 00:24

Do you have a router?

SpyJoe · 16-05-2008, 00:26

Sorry, forgot to mention that. No, I dont have a router. I'm connected straight into the modem via ethernet...

AbyssUnderground · 16-05-2008, 09:22

Virgin do allow inbound HTTP.

To get your ip: www.abyssunderground.co.uk/ip
If you have a router (you say you don't) you would need to port forward.
Check your firewall is off, including the windows firewall.

The other thing that can crop up is modems not supporting something called loopback. This means you can't view your site using your own external IP. Get someone else to do it for you or use a proxy e.g www.proxify.com

ceedee · 16-05-2008, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

To get your ip: www.abyssunderground.co.uk/ip
If you have a router (you say you don't) you would need to port forward.
Check your firewall is off, including the windows firewall.

I have a router and browsing to my IP, I get the login for my router's config.
Do I now forward port 80 to a particular pc? Won't that interfere with browsing?

haydnwalker · 16-05-2008, 14:39

no if you forward port 80 to your PC it wont interfere with browsing as web servers on the internet dont *always* send traffic on port 80...you only request it on port 80.

So if you request http://<yourIP> then you should see your website but if you request http://www.google.com then you should see google.

ceedee · 16-05-2008, 15:28

Thanks for clearing that one up, Haydn!

SpyJoe · 16-05-2008, 17:21

AbyssUnderground, I have asked my friends to check my ip, but it didnt load for them either. My firewall was off when they tried to connect to it...

Any other ideas, anyone?

**Graham M** · 16-05-2008, 17:27

Check Windows firewall too

SpyJoe · 16-05-2008, 17:39

As I said previously, windows firewall is always off...

Jon T · 16-05-2008, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceedee

I have a router and browsing to my IP, I get the login for my router's config.
Do I now forward port 80 to a particular pc? Won't that interfere with browsing?

If your Webserver and your router's admin pages are both on port 80 then there will be a conflict. This will only be a problem(ii think) if you've enabled management of your router on it's WAN interface.

If you think about it logically, I put your IP address in to a browser address bar, my browser then connects to your router and ask for a relpy on port 80, the router says "hey, I service/reply to request on that port". Depending on the router, if you've also got a port forward for port 80 to a PC on your LAN, you've probably totaly confused the router.

Can you move the web management of your router to a different port(this can be done on most router, but not all)?

This will have no effect on your browsing, whether you port forward port 80 or not.

hoggie · 16-05-2008, 17:47

windows firewall isn't off when you think it is. make sure its disabled in services as well.
if you also have updates switched off, this also isn't off.
try this simple test. set the time in updates too a time more than 2hrs away. the put your pc/laptop in sleep mode. if you have wake-up on lan switched on in your BIOS. by some microsoft miracle the pc/laptop will wake-up.
odd when you have updates switched off.

SpyJoe · 17-05-2008, 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoggie

windows firewall isn't off when you think it is. make sure its disabled in services as well.
if you also have updates switched off, this also isn't off.
try this simple test. set the time in updates too a time more than 2hrs away. the put your pc/laptop in sleep mode. if you have wake-up on lan switched on in your BIOS. by some microsoft miracle the pc/laptop will wake-up.
odd when you have updates switched off.

I went to administrative tools, then services and stopped windows firewall service, but my website still doesn't load...

What else can it be? I'm getting a bit annoyed by this...

hoggie · 17-05-2008, 03:26

have you tried giving the server its own fixed ip on the router ?
i have two routers one with no nat for xbox and the another router connected to the first for wifi and wired pc.
i had to change the ip range on the first router so i didn't get any conflicts..... thats what im thinking is happening with your server an ip conflict. will find my mate tomoz and get him to post as he has the same set-up as me with a game server........if he's not fishing

the server needs a fixed ip on the router just phoned him.he said without a fixed ip the router will assign one within the 192.168.1-100 range

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try mapping ports 21 and 990. thats the ports tony uses on his FTP server at home.

hoggie · 17-05-2008, 03:44

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here's a map of how the fixed ip system works with a linksys router its easy.101 being the server.

hope this has been of some help.

Good luck.
Phil