Windows XP problem

trentsteel · 26-04-2004, 20:48

I installed new graphics card today, problem is Windows XP won't start in normal mode, only safe mode and debugging mode, although debugging mode seems to do the job the same as normal mode, what does it do?

Also have Windows 98 as backup but that won't load up at all, hasn't done for ages, and start up floppy disk won't work now

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated

Defiant · 26-04-2004, 20:51

what card for a start would help and did you have on board graphics to start with ?

downquark1 · 26-04-2004, 20:52

Is it a different make to your original card?

Steve H · 26-04-2004, 21:02

Did you have onboard graphics previousley?

Is this defiently disabled?

trentsteel · 26-04-2004, 21:05

Had onboard graphics months ago, then upgraded to 64M card (as computer shop guy sed thats the best PCI card available), but found 256MB PCI card- GeForce FX5200 PCI...1st card was no problem, this one is

darkangel · 26-04-2004, 21:30

at what point does xp fail, what happens blue screen etc
did u uninstall the previous drivers?
does the card require external power, u don't mention the brand?
have u tried with all startup items disabled?

Defiant · 26-04-2004, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by trentsteel

Had onboard graphics months ago, then upgraded to 64M card (as computer shop guy sed thats the best PCI card available), but found 256MB PCI card- GeForce FX5200 PCI...1st card was no problem, this one is

So have you disabled it in bios ?

Paul · 26-04-2004, 21:36

When in safe mode have you tried removing all signs of any graphics adaptors (including hidden devices) and then rebooting?
Could also check the card is seated properly and any fans are working correctly. Check for debris in the slot the adaptor is plugged into as well.

trentsteel · 26-04-2004, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkangel

at what point does xp fail, what happens blue screen etc
did u uninstall the previous drivers?
does the card require external power, u don't mention the brand?
have u tried with all startup items disabled?

Drivers disabled yes, no external power needed (XFX is the brand i think), works fine in debugging and safe mode as i said, havent tried no startup items, i will do tomorrow when I have time.

Havent diabled on board graphics in bios, didn't realise I needed to, as I said, previous card worked fine.

Thanks for feedback, I shall try some of the ideas tomorrow

EDIT: Card is in slot fine, checked that first, also XP fails after boot screen, just goes black for long long time

Defiant · 26-04-2004, 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by trentsteel

Havent diabled on board graphics in bios, didn't realise I needed to, as I said, previous card worked fine.

As I thought. Its confusing the computer. Its like telling someone he/she has four hands but they can only use two

zaax · 29-04-2004, 00:18

Your video drivers need to changed to the new card. Run the disk you had with the card and install the drivers.
If you don't have the drivers go to the manufactures web site and down load them and put them (when unpacked) in to the windows/sys folder and restart.

The other replies are very good and that is what I would do if the card did not work, but it is, as is running up to safe mode.

Bifta · 29-04-2004, 00:26

You don't just need to install the new drivers, you need to rid the machine of EVERY trace of the old ones, example, years back I changed from a Nvidia card to an ATI card, didn't uninstall the drivers for the Nvidia card first, just slapped the Radeon in and tried to overinstall the Catalyst drivers, totally and utterly forked it, exactly the same symptoms you currently have. Depending on which card you had previously, there are tools to remove the drivers completely (that's a hint for you to tell us what it was btw).

Defiant · 29-04-2004, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Bifta

You don't just need to install the new drivers, you need to rid the machine of EVERY trace of the old ones, example, years back I changed from a Nvidia card to an ATI card, didn't uninstall the drivers for the Nvidia card first, just slapped the Radeon in and tried to overinstall the Catalyst drivers, totally and utterly forked it, exactly the same symptoms you currently have. Depending on which card you had previously, there are tools to remove the drivers completely (that's a hint for you to tell us what it was btw).

Bifta your computer should have picked up the ATI card when you installed it. Therefore the computer then would have started to look for the correct drives to use. It would not have tried using the Nvidia one's believe me. You will have had another problem

Bifta · 29-04-2004, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Defiant

Bifta your computer should have picked up the ATI card when you installed it. Therefore the computer then would have started to look for the correct drives to use. It would not have tried using the Nvidia one's believe me. You will have had another problem

Uh ... no, it doesnt quite work like that. It's a known problem, have a trawl around Rage3d and you'll find out. After I used Detonator Destroyer http://www.guru3d.com/detonator-destroyer/ to remove all traces of the Nvidia drivers it worked perfectly, please don't infer that I'm an idiot because I find that a little rich coming from you.

SOSAGES · 29-04-2004, 11:20

id say your an idiot as well if it makes u feel better