Is this true in regards to a new Install?
06-08-2012, 08:27
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
No it's steel, with a copper coating
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Which is cheaper and has more attenuation than copper
As for skin effect at the frequencies used not all the current will be going through the copper with a proportion going through the steel.. Not a great deal though compared with lower frequencies..
Anyone here got zapped by the skin effect on SHF high power cable
Last edited by Kymmy; 06-08-2012 at 08:32.
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06-08-2012, 08:38
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
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Me and my fiend will be doing a lot of gaming so it's more a matter of latency than speed.
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So why did you chose cable over ADSL or better still if available FTTC?
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06-08-2012, 10:24
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks
So why did you chose cable over ADSL or better still if available FTTC?
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What do you mean?
I have some of the lowest pings I have ever seen with my connection :/
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06-08-2012, 12:28
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
What about jitter?
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06-08-2012, 13:06
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
You get about 0.2dB attenuation per meter. The extra length of cable will not be important unless you are already very distant from the street cabinet you connect to.
OP - do you know the distance from the cab?
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06-08-2012, 17:35
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
Even if he is distant, it's VM's job to keep his levels in check not his.
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06-08-2012, 18:21
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Nobody likes a pedant.
Copper is the generic term for the cable.
Yes, there may be different compounds but we all call it copper. Ask any engineer/ tech and they'll call it copper.
It's a HFC network not a HFS or a HFCCS network ........
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To be pedantic once more, the C in HFC is coax, not copper. I wouldn't call coax copper. I'd call it coax.
Anyway, @OP, it would really make very little difference either way. Having longer ethernet & shorter coax may make a tiny difference, but not so much that I'd go out of my way to make sure I had that setup.
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06-08-2012, 23:57
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
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What about jitter?
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1 - 2 ms Jitter when pinging Australia on Pingtest :/
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Originally Posted by Eeeps
You get about 0.2dB attenuation per meter. The extra length of cable will not be important unless you are already very distant from the street cabinet you connect to.
OP - do you know the distance from the cab?
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The green cabinet is about 4 or 5 houses down on the corner.
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07-08-2012, 12:04
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
The length of cable coming into your house will have negligible effect on ping and jitter, what matters is the people sharing what's on the other end of the cable.
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07-08-2012, 23:41
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
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The length of cable coming into your house will have negligible effect on ping and jitter, what matters is the people sharing what's on the other end of the cable.
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No one else uses the connection.
Just me.
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08-08-2012, 00:08
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
That's not how cable works. All cable connections are merged with hundreds/thousands of others and your connection is shared by hundreds of users as well.
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08-08-2012, 00:27
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
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That's not how cable works. All cable connections are merged with hundreds/thousands of others and your connection is shared by hundreds of users as well.
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I meant in my home >.<"
Of course others share it but in my home it's just me
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08-08-2012, 07:55
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
Apparently a hollow copper pipe would carry the same current as a solid copper wire. It's the cross sectional area that matters. The saving costs of using steel in the middle is immense. The current is very low so heating up is not a problem
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08-08-2012, 08:03
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
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Originally Posted by 27monksbury
Apparently a hollow copper pipe would carry the same current as a solid copper wire.
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It depends on the frequency.. DC most of the solid copper wire is used and there is little skin effect, where as when you get beyond Ghz most of it is on the skin.
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08-08-2012, 16:18
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Re: Is this true in regards to a new Install ??
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I meant in my home >.<
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In response to my post which specifically said
"the other end of the cable."
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