50M Pitifully slow newsgroup speeds during the evening - Page 7

greeninferno · 03-02-2012, 21:52

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Originally Posted by Retrovertigo

I used 6 connections whereas usually I use 20. Doesn't make any difference though.

To be honest I've been starting to think the same thing. That because of the below 5meg speed, Virgin are crippling peer to peer etc to absolutely unusable levels. I think stuff like Xbox live is also slowed down in some way as well, as demo downloads take an age. Much slower than a 5 meg speed would normally allow.

Still getting flyers through the door looking for new customers as well - which makes my blood boil.

have you tried the ssl server on a different port, 443 for example?

this will get round the punitive protocol shaping until you hit the 3GB? downlosd threshold.

southwell · 04-02-2012, 10:40

I changed to 443 a while back when my speed started fluctuating badly. It has been maxing out ever since.

Retrovertigo · 04-02-2012, 13:15

I'll test out the ports later. If Virgin really are making stuff like this totally unusable then I'm going to hound them for a discount or I'll look to B.T infinity.

I'm not paying the same money for a service purposely reduced compared to what others get for the same cash.

**Kymmy** · 04-02-2012, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Retrovertigo

I'll test out the ports later. If Virgin really are making stuff like this totally unusable then I'm going to hound them for a discount or I'll look to B.T infinity.

I'm not paying the same money for a service purposely reduced compared to what others get for the same cash.

Yet ADSL with it's capability dependant on distance from the exchange has been doing that for years..

qasdfdsaq · 04-02-2012, 15:49

Infinity isn't ADSL, and provides the same proportion of provisioned speeds as VM's 50mbit.

**Kymmy** · 04-02-2012, 16:06

Never said it was, just pointing out that it wasn't anything new in relation to speed variation

qasdfdsaq · 04-02-2012, 16:39

True when it comes to ADSL, but he wants to switch to Infinity, which currently performs a lot better and a lot less variably than VM.

Infinity, being the first "true" competitor to VM's 50mbps and being the first widely available FTTx has thus far lived without the variability of VM or ADSL, and I'm obviously hoping it stays that way just to give VM a kick up the behind.

General Maximus · 04-02-2012, 17:47

me too, they need some proper competition to keep them in shape and change their attitude and behaviour.

**Kymmy** · 04-02-2012, 17:59

Not even got ADSL2 here so not much chance of Infinity anytime soon

Mind you VM seems to be good in this area..

qasdfdsaq · 05-02-2012, 03:29

Yeah, that's the one thing putting me off from moving home - which I've been planning half a year now. My top priority in a home is probably broadband (sad eh?) and I'm already in the best place for broadband with VM Cable, Infinity, 900m from exchange with ADSL2+ and a half dozen LLU providers, way above average 3G and JANET. Only thing missing is FTTP but I hear that's coming this year...

Hence the only reason I can tolerate terrible VM performance week after week is the fact that I don't have to put up with it

Retrovertigo · 05-02-2012, 09:26

I've actually been speaking to an engineer who frequents a games forum I visit. He is a B.T engineer in Manchester and has been installing Infinity for a while now.

He is actually someone I "know" and has been giving me information on Infinity in my area.

I actually live really close to an exchange and the B.T infinity street box is literally on the street next door to my flat so I shouldn't have any issues really. I should certainly see a more consistent speed than I'm getting with VM.

Basically B.T have got far less broadband customers here because of the fact all the students flock to Virgin with supposed promises of super fast speeds - which I truly believe Virgin are mis selling as they know that the "up to 50 meg" is stretched far beyond what people should reasonably expect.

I tried the port trick posted above and low and behold speed "shot up" on newsgroups. I say "shot up" because it went up to around 6 meg. That 6meg being what speed tests showed my speed to be last night.

I think most reasonable people would agree that 6 meg falls way short of what "up to 50 meg" should be. Thanks

**Hugh** · 05-02-2012, 10:41

A dumb question - 6MB/s, or 6 Mb/s?

**Kymmy** · 05-02-2012, 11:23

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Originally Posted by Hugh

A dumb question - 6MB/s, or 6 Mb/s?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35374994-post83.html

Chrysalis · 05-02-2012, 13:26

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Originally Posted by Retrovertigo

I've actually been speaking to an engineer who frequents a games forum I visit. He is a B.T engineer in Manchester and has been installing Infinity for a while now.

He is actually someone I "know" and has been giving me information on Infinity in my area.

I actually live really close to an exchange and the B.T infinity street box is literally on the street next door to my flat so I shouldn't have any issues really. I should certainly see a more consistent speed than I'm getting with VM.

Basically B.T have got far less broadband customers here because of the fact all the students flock to Virgin with supposed promises of super fast speeds - which I truly believe Virgin are mis selling as they know that the "up to 50 meg" is stretched far beyond what people should reasonably expect.

I tried the port trick posted above and low and behold speed "shot up" on newsgroups. I say "shot up" because it went up to around 6 meg. That 6meg being what speed tests showed my speed to be last night.

I think most reasonable people would agree that 6 meg falls way short of what "up to 50 meg" should be. Thanks

Round here just about every property in student areas has VM pre fitted. So its just a case of tenants activating over the phone, whilst if they were to go with BT they would likely get landlord objection and extra waits as well as costs for installation, not to mention I dont think BT do student freindly contracts (max 9 months).

The sad thing is VM will be well aware what the service is like in oversubbed student areas but they still keep signging them up every year.

qasdfdsaq · 05-02-2012, 14:52

I guess that's just area demographics then. Round here my area's eased up a bit since Infinity became available - surprise surprise - particularly since most buildings are hundreds of years old and have had BT lines installed since long before VM was even a pipe dream.

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I should add - if you're a heavy newsgroups user, you're probably better off on BT Infinity anyway.

According to this page, BT don't traffic shape or throttle newsgroups at all, only P2P.

In addition, it seems (not sure if this is new or not) that the unlimited option 2 is in fact, completely unlimited.