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Sephiroth · 14-01-2012, 15:35

Hi carbon60

My son is 23, lives in London and comes home to play MW3. He makes me switch to BT Infinity because for the past couple of months lag on VM50 is unacceptable. It's never been a problem with BT Infinity.

I have to say that until they started upgrading the Reading area (presumably crowding users temporarily onto line cards/UBRs), my VM50 circuit was perfect for Black Ops (MW3 wasn't out then).

But most of us who have Infinity know that latency/Jitter are very low indeed.

kwikbreaks · 14-01-2012, 16:33

This does, of course, beg the question on why you keep your VM connection.

Is it nostalgia from the days when it was good or a hope that sometime in the future VM may return to sanity and stop overselling their product?

Or is it that Infinity has some well kept secret failing that I haven't heard of but which should stop me binning VM and switching to it at the first possible opportunity?

Chrysalis · 14-01-2012, 16:50

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Hi carbon60

My son is 23, lives in London and comes home to play MW3. He makes me switch to BT Infinity because for the past couple of months lag on VM50 is unacceptable. It's never been a problem with BT Infinity.

I have to say that until they started upgrading the Reading area (presumably crowding users temporarily onto line cards/UBRs), my VM50 circuit was perfect for Black Ops (MW3 wasn't out then).

But most of us who have Infinity know that latency/Jitter are very low indeed.

Positive thinking from yourself seph assuming your issue is temporary due to upgrades.

Sephiroth · 14-01-2012, 17:07

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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks

This does, of course, beg the question on why you keep your VM connection.

Is it nostalgia from the days when it was good or a hope that sometime in the future VM may return to sanity and stop overselling their product?

Or is it that Infinity has some well kept secret failing that I haven't heard of but which should stop me binning VM and switching to it at the first possible opportunity?

That's a strange tone you've used. Not that I owe you an explanation, here goes:

1/
Because of trees I can't get SKY TV. So it's VM TV.

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Up to last year (before Infinity), my BT connection was only capable of 1.3 meg. So I took VM broadband (20 meg). Perfectly good service and good for my son's gaming (then Counterstrike & COD).

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I had BT broadband before I took VM broadband. So I kept it for diversity because I professionally cannot be without broadband. VM packages are good value IMO.

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I took BT Infinity because it was there. At the time (a year ago), VM broadband was perfect for gaming.

5/
Apart from what I believe to be a temporary blip on VM gaming performance in my locality (I don't game any more), none of the above justifications have changed.

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Plus, I am in the networks business and like to keep up there knowledgewise.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Positive thinking from yourself seph assuming your issue is temporary due to upgrades.

Thanks Chrys. Apparently not what Kwikkie thinks. LOL.

General Maximus · 14-01-2012, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Is there anything unreasonable in what I've written above?

Nope, they are constructive points made on a logical evaluation of product specification and performance and anyone semi-intelligent who used an objective analytical approach should come to the same conclusions. I couldn't agree more with you and I wish VM were forced to change the PR blab because it is simply a joke at our expense.

kwikbreaks · 14-01-2012, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Thanks Chrys. Apparently not what Kwikkie thinks. LOL.

Maybe it was my choice of words but I didn't intend to imply any criticism it was just a question on why you keep both when Infinity is performing well and cable apparently isn't.

You've answered the question anyway - you need an internet connection so you keep both and that certainly is better than two of either.

Good luck with the VM issue being temporary - I take a pretty jaded view of VM these days so don't have as much faith as you.

Chrysalis · 14-01-2012, 18:58

For what its worth seph I think your issue isnt temporary. Once a VM area gets oversubbed its usually chronic.

Sephiroth · 14-01-2012, 19:05

Chrys

The locality isn't over subbed. I did the saddo thing (that I posted a year or so ago) of mapping every street in RG41 5, all the passive and active cabinets, calculating the number of homes passed per cabinet and how many passive cabinets per optical node.

So I know it's not oversubscribed at optical node level. But I do know that we're still on two upstream channels and there's been no uplift yet on the downstream (we're on an old fequency plan).

I was told by a VM tech on the CVM forum that we'd been recently resegmented at the line card and it is possible that the heavily populated RG6 area is terminating on my line card. They've confirmed before whether that sort of thing is true in other cases, so when I ask, I expect to be told. But at the meoment, browsing etc is fine and I don't game. So I'm content to sit it out till the DS fifth channel comes along with the other two upstreams and I really have something to bite into if latency for gaming remains poor.

Chrysalis · 14-01-2012, 19:22

seph yeah, the question is tho if that resegmentation is permanent or not, it may well be.

eg. I got no students in my area, however my neighbouring area is heavily student populated so its logical to assume my area has provided it relief, spreading the pain so to speak.

So an extra 2 US channls are supposed to be coming?

I also am waiting for the 5th DS channel but I didnt know another 2 US channels were coming as well.