New upload speeds and Network Management

[Chrysalis]

my guess is the shaping will come on in a faster rollout then the upgrade so the areas who get the upgrade last will have shaping before the upgrade.

[Jayster]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

No consumer network has close to enough capacity to handle any amount of users using their full available bandwidth. You're talking 50:1 or more on the 50Mbit product as far as bandwidth sold to available goes.

This allocates 1Mbps to each customer. This is way in excess of the allocation of many ISPs, some allocate as little as 30-40kbps to each customer.

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It helped tremendously. Without it and given the rise in bandwidth usage the network would have keeled over.

If it was sold to your in that manner that's not ideal at all. As far as 'fibre optic' goes it doesn't change that, even on fully fibre optic connections, capacity is shared.

How much capacity do you think Virgin Media have altogether?

[leexgx]

interesting read all this is, i could never consider BT as an option {at the currant speeds of 1-2mb where i am}not for i guess 10-15 years, cable will always be-able to beat BT ADSL tech until they do role out fiber to the house or coxa to the house(like cable do) as to why i say 10-15 years, taken them 10 years to get to the 1-5 year FTTC role out thats going on now, even with these limations in place Do understand you can download 50-100gb an day on VM services, you do that on an BT/ADSL connection you mite get the boot or get charged for it (option 3 unlimited service that's Not unlimited)

(capacity is dependant where you are where i am i am Very close to the main internet pipe and not so many users at all on my node that use 50mb, less then 100) not seen my connection drop in speed when downloading with usenet (not posting my provider){apart from the issue with the bandwidth provider screwing the link between VM and the main internet pipe}

Never had an issue when i was on 10-20mb services to get full download speeds (50mb on the other hand no VM network issues at getting 50mb apart from when the bandwidth provider cant do it)

be interesting if they have fixed the problem with the bandwidth provider that the 50mb users use (like myself) as it used to drop to 10mb with high packetloss for short times (5-10mins) then go back up to full speed for 1hr then drop again (this only happen if i downloaded like 8-15gb) {this was not an VM network fault it was the bandwidth provider that VM use that was or is at fault}

also the upload speed update would be an profile update on the modem so for the most part over night your modem most likely will reboot on its own to get the correct profile (no harm turning the modem off and on thought but still think it will do it on its own)

[|Kippa|]

Personally I thought they might bring in some restrictions when the new 5mbit upload rate was introduced. As for the new changes, they could have been a lot more worse/draconian, so overall from me the new changes get a thumbs up from me. One thing that I am curious about is what sort of management/shaping will be introduced on the up and comming 100mbit connection. If they keep it the same at it is at the moment then that isn't too bad. I am glad that they have left ftp and ssh alone, which means that is good for people who want to upload/download to their website or dedicated server.

[horseman]

Originally Posted by Masque

.... all we can do with the present information is just hum and har and say sorry no idea what is happening to your connection.

That's reassuring to see that some things won't change then?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by horseman

That's reassuring to see that some things won't change then?

I take that obviously you have never spoken to me then.

[horseman]

Originally Posted by Masque

I take that obviously you have never spoken to me then.

Only when I delivered your new bed..... (tip was appreciated)

[colin25]

Originally Posted by horseman

Only when I delivered your new bed..... (tip was appreciated)

Ok, this is getting strange

[horseman]

Originally Posted by colin25

Ok, this is getting strange

Suggest you might want to sleep on it then.....?

or check: Callcentre's Zzzzzzz

[colin25]

Originally Posted by horseman

Suggest you might want to sleep on it then.....?

or check: Callcentre's Zzzzzzz

I meant masque giving tip

[joglynne]

The tip was probably to ring VM just after 8am.

[colin25]

[Ero]

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[Peter_]

Originally Posted by horseman

Suggest you might want to sleep on it then.....?

or check: Callcentre's Zzzzzzz

As per usual totally out of context.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Jayster

How much capacity do you think Virgin Media have altogether?

Over 9000.

It doesn't matter at all how much they have and such a number would be worthless anyway. Purely PR material.