New upload speeds and Network Management
07-10-2010, 11:29
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
What does it mean if your upstream symbol rate is 5120?
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07-10-2010, 11:41
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
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Originally Posted by janipewter
What does it mean if your upstream symbol rate is 5120?
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From reading through the thread... that you'll be upgraded to the new upload speeds soon.
Mines still at 2560 unfortunately :/
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07-10-2010, 11:54
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
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Originally Posted by Kabaal
From reading through the thread... that you'll be upgraded to the new upload speeds soon.
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Hope so  , not sure what it may have been before but my upstream also reads 5120 and I am from the Neath/Swansea area.
We're always last down here get the latest upgrades
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07-10-2010, 12:29
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
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Originally Posted by janipewter
What does it mean if your upstream symbol rate is 5120?
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I think it just means that the network will support it. It cannot be a signal that you will be getting the upgrade soon as I've been on that sybol rate for months.
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07-10-2010, 12:32
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
my data tranmisison is abit risty but if i rememebr correctly symobol rate is the max throughput you can send so when uploaidng your packt size has to be within that limit
been a while cant remember how to explain it better
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07-10-2010, 12:46
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
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07-10-2010, 12:59
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23
my data tranmisison is abit risty but if i rememebr correctly symobol rate is the max throughput you can send so when uploaidng your packt size has to be within that limit
been a while cant remember how to explain it better
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Mine is none existant.
All this revolves around a post by Igni which people have been interpreting in their own way.
If I recall correctly (and I'm sure he will if I'm wrong) the post was saying that if the symbol rate was 5120 then the network in the area was ready for the upgrade.
At no time did he say if it had changed to that then your upgrade would be imminent. That's VM's decision on how they roll it out.
Work has been ongoing for quite a while preparing for the u/l upgrade in many areas which won't recieve it for a while yet.
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07-10-2010, 13:45
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
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Originally Posted by pip08456
Mine is none existant.
All this revolves around a post by Igni which people have been interpreting in their own way.
If I recall correctly (and I'm sure he will if I'm wrong) the post was saying that if the symbol rate was 5120 then the network in the area was ready for the upgrade.
At no time did he say if it had changed to that then your upgrade would be imminent. That's VM's decision on how they roll it out.
Work has been ongoing for quite a while preparing for the u/l upgrade in many areas which won't recieve it for a while yet.
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well i probally say that be correct assuming my memory s correct about symbol rate, as you would need highr symbol rate for hgiher speed
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07-10-2010, 15:07
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23
my data tranmisison is abit risty but if i rememebr correctly symobol rate is the max throughput you can send so when uploaidng your packt size has to be within that limit
been a while cant remember how to explain it better
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Nothing to do with that at all, symbol rate is exactly what it says it is, the rate of symbols an upstream channel carries per second.
Higher symbol rate, higher capacity channel, higher capacity channel less chance of congestion with higher upstream caps on each modem.
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
no problem thanks for looking around, however I think the thing ignition told people to check means its on docsis2, so if I am right I can just watch for the upstream modulation to change to 64QAM.
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VM are not doing 5120ksym/s 64QAM channels initially. There will be some isolated cases of these but the standard upgrade build is 2 x 6.4MHz (which gives a symbol rate of 5120ksym/s) 16QAM channels.
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07-10-2010, 15:19
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
VM are not doing 5120ksym/s 64QAM channels initially. There will be some isolated cases of these but the standard upgrade build is 2 x 6.4MHz (which gives a symbol rate of 5120ksym/s) 16QAM channels.
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ok thanks, so basically I cannot find out until I actually have the upgrade.
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07-10-2010, 15:25
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
ok thanks, so basically I cannot find out until I actually have the upgrade.
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Due to your modem that is correct. Others would note the symbol rate change indicating they are on DOCSIS 2 however as mentioned this does not mean that the tier uplift is imminent, DOCSIS 2 has been on the network for quite some time for capacity relief.
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08-10-2010, 12:11
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
Some more areas have been added
Faster upload speeds are already available in the following areas: - Clifton
- Enfield
- Heckmondwike
- Huddersfield
- Nailsea
- Sutton Coldfield
- Warwick
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09-10-2010, 13:27
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
How do i know what exchange i'm connected to? When my IP is logged in certain sites it also shows something like this:
xxxxxxxNAILxxxxxxxxxx.AZTW.CABLE.VIRGINMEDIA.COM
I assumed "nail" and "aztw" stood for nailsea and aztec west, but now i see Nailsea has already been upgraded, i must be on a different exchange right?
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09-10-2010, 14:57
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
Where abouts in the SW are you? I used to be on nailsea, now I'm always on newt (Newton Abbot)
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09-10-2010, 15:04
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Re: New upload speeds and Network Management
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Originally Posted by Bman
How do i know what exchange i'm connected to? When my IP is logged in certain sites it also shows something like this:
xxxxxxxNAILxxxxxxxxxx.AZTW.CABLE.VIRGINMEDIA.COM
I assumed "nail" and "aztw" stood for nailsea and aztec west, but now i see Nailsea has already been upgraded, i must be on a different exchange right?
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