Broadband Speed 'Throttling' - Page 2

pip08456 · 27-09-2010, 11:12

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Originally Posted by on in an hour!

the 20 and 50meg services are on the same UBR's,and are both docsis3

I think you are getting confused. In some areas 20Mb has been migrated to the overlay network whilst in others it is still on the legacy.

It matters not which network they are on the 20Mb modems are not DOCSIS3 capable. Don't know about the new hubs though.

**Kymmy** · 27-09-2010, 11:18

Yep, 20Mb if migrated over is still using Docsis1.1

dgcarter · 27-09-2010, 11:36

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Originally Posted by Masque

Anyone can be traffic managed but the main targetr is the people who continually download to excess as per this below.

Rubbish. Traffic management cuts in the first time and every time that you go over the limit. It doesn't 'target' anyone it's a blanket response.

**Kymmy** · 27-09-2010, 11:37

Yes it is a blanket response but one that only effects people that decide to download during peak times....

In simple terms it does what it's designed to do

Peter_ · 27-09-2010, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

Yes it is a blanket response but one that only effects people that decide to download during peak times....

In simple terms it does what it's designed to do

If you go over in the specified times you will be traffic managed and that goes for all other ISP's that run traffic management.

mjpartyboy · 27-09-2010, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Masque

Full details can be found here.http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...anagement.html

I'm fully aware of the traffic management poilicies, but my argument still stands:

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In fact, the policies only affect the top 5% of users on a daily basis - those whose usage of the service would affect other users if they weren't managed.

Anyone goes over the evening cap once, ever, and they are labelled as a "top 5% user." And doing this once affects other users the same as those who are constantly hammering the service.

Peter_ · 27-09-2010, 14:04

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Originally Posted by mjpartyboy

I'm fully aware of the traffic management poilicies, but my argument still stands:

Anyone goes over the evening cap once, ever, and they are labelled as a "top 5% user." And doing this once affects other users the same as those who are constantly hammering the service.

If I go over then I get traffic managed and have been in the past so you are not alone.

The traffic management has been well documented for a long long time and many other companies do likewise or even cut you off.

**Kymmy** · 27-09-2010, 14:08

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Originally Posted by mjpartyboy

I'm fully aware of the traffic management poilicies, but my argument still stands:

Anyone goes over the evening cap once, ever, and they are labelled as a "top 5% user." And doing this once affects other users the same as those who are constantly hammering the service.

I think you missed out the meaning of "Daily Basis"

They're not denying that people will be effected.. What they are saying though is that only the top 5% will be effected on a daily basis.. So if you download everyday and get hit by STM every day then you are classified as being in the top 5%

In the end though you have a choice... Close the VM account and go elsewhere as moaning about it in here isn't gonna do a thing to help you

Cromulent · 27-09-2010, 14:25

I'll tell you Virgins traffic management is much better than BTs who I just left. With BT you get 100GB a month and thats it. Even if you do all your downloading after midnight. Go over that and you are throttled for the rest of the month!

At least with Virgin you know you can download as much as you like after 10 or whatever. There is plenty of software available that allows you to start downloading automatically at a given time without you needing to stay up late etc.

**Kymmy** · 27-09-2010, 14:41

And BT's being generous compared to a lot of Unlimited ADSL plans, Orange allows you 40Gb's before sending you threatening letters then taking action, Demon Office Home was 60Gb and throttled me down to 192Kb download between 8am and 6pm

TonyHoyle · 27-09-2010, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

And BT's being generous compared to a lot of Unlimited ADSL plans, Orange allows you 40Gb's before sending you threatening letters then taking action, Demon Office Home was 60Gb and throttled me down to 192Kb download between 8am and 6pm

OTOH I can theoretically download 12TB* in a month with my ADSL line.. it all depends on who you go with. VM would have cut me off long before that.

You have to decide your usage and then find someone who will provide you with that. moaning about throttling *after* purchasing the product means you didn't do your research. There are options for every kind of use and every budget if you look.

* With a following wind, and if I stick to the right time of night...

**Kymmy** · 27-09-2010, 18:24

Actually you mean 12Tb.. A 10Mb connection would give you 2.5TB a month download at full speed (that's 1MB per second *60 seconds *60minutes *24hours *30days)

Even if you took away the 10 hours for STM that's over 1TB a month throttle free downloading.. That's still high up in the rankings of allowable downloads per ISP

TonyHoyle · 27-09-2010, 18:51

No 12TB.

Unachievable in speed terms (even on FTTC I think - although bonded FTTC could do it, at a price) but within my current limits.

VM have been known to send out warnings at 150GB.. doubt they'd let you hit the TB range without passing comment. They're not a high traffic ISP.. which is fine, as they're not claiming to sell that kind of connection.

Ignitionnet · 27-09-2010, 19:54

There are people on 50Mbit who have actually downloaded multiple TB / month without incident as opposed to picking numbers out the hat and theorising. So it's not about doubts, they have allowed people to hit the TB range without comment.

No-one has any idea how your ISP would react to that level of usage (>10TB/month) given they don't have a product that can get close to it.

oldjoe · 16-05-2012, 14:07

A lot of you guys seem to work for Virgin media? Perhaps I am simple but I pay for for 100mbs with VM and should recieve a minimum of 50mbs even at busy times (even ignoring this 50% reduction contained in the small print in the terms and conditions ) I usually get about 6mbs ( even on ethernet link ) I don't download much so don't hit any capping nonsense. I don't see how a company can advertise "really fast broadband" and provide a really slow broadband within the law? This forum is quite aggressive in it's response to the person who actually expected the ISP provider to do what it said it would do . I don't understand why , am I missing something here?