BT Infinity VS VM Cable - Page 4

Ignitionnet · 21-02-2010, 13:40

You should still see those good browsing speeds while leeching the newsgroups for the foreseeable future given that you won't be able to get 50Mbit on them at very least during peak times for too much longer

Some people do, of course, use their connections differently, everyone's mileage varies.

I'm ok whatever Virgin do, I have a backup connection and am finding less and less need for 50M.

mj62mj62 · 16-09-2010, 19:20

I'm on BT and having loads of hassle at the moment.

My speeds have dropped to 0.5Mbps... Each time BT tries something to fix it, I have to leave it connected for 72 hours and measure the difference. Are we living in the dark ages or something??? 72 hours???

It's very sad that we only have two choices:
BT (regardless of who re-sells it) and Virgin.

I should not have to spend my evenings messing about trying things to get it working.

Is Virgin better for this sort of thing?

BT is trying to blame something in my house (but nothing has changed and they keep banding/restricting my line, preventing me from experimenting with different appliances turned off, etc).

Not sure if I should upgrade with BT from adsl to Fibre (infinity) or switch to VM...

Two devils??? lesser of two evils???

ruddock08 · 19-09-2010, 17:32

When I can get BT Infinity - i will be going on. BT phone is a lot better than Virgin, free 0845/0870 calls - cheaper mobile calls, broadband will be top notch and BT Vision is the t**s!

pip08456 · 19-09-2010, 18:57

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Originally Posted by ruddock08

When I can get BT Infinity - i will be going on. broadband will be top notch and BT Vision is the t**s!

Yeh Right

jb66 · 19-09-2010, 23:23

Bt vision it pants

Toto · 19-09-2010, 23:53

I'll say this, if BT Infinity turns out to be bellow par, and doesn't look like it will deliver on its expectations, especially over the next few years, it will impact on Cable improvement significantly.

Why should the cable industry invest in faster speed infrastructures when they are expensive, and are not required to keep the competition at bay?

So far its one of the only reasons why VM are improving their cable offering, but if the competition weren't there, or are proving to be little in the way of competition, don't expect improvement in speed to continue past 100Mb/s.

SideWeaver · 20-09-2010, 01:09

To be honest I look at the technology side. Cable Vs Standard Copper cable. To me cable wins over copper. More stable and at least you know when it works you get the proper speed. That is me at least.

mj62mj62 · 20-09-2010, 07:12

I agree. Each time you have an adsl problem you have to wait 72 hours until you can be certain if a given change has or has not worked.

Perhaps someday the cable market will also open up to smaller ISPs the same way that adsl did? That would be nice. I'd rather be able to switch to good ISPs that treat you really well (Zen, Idnet, etc.)

pip08456 · 20-09-2010, 10:07

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Originally Posted by SideWeaver

To be honest I look at the technology side. Cable Vs Standard Copper cable. To me cable wins over copper. More stable and at least you know when it works you get the proper speed. That is me at least.

Not really a valid argument as BT Infinity will be FTTC, exactly the same as VM.

jb66 · 20-09-2010, 10:13

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Not really a valid argument as BT Infinity will be FTTC, exactly the same as VM.

Bt will still use the copper cable vs coax cable from the cab, so virgin will always have edge until something changes again

Ignitionnet · 20-09-2010, 10:39

Depends.

DSL is unicast while cable is broadcast. Whatever the capacity of the technology it's about what customers see as their experience.

abigail · 20-09-2010, 11:26

I used to be with BT (not Infinity) and their service was hopeless, went to Talk talk for three years and then transferred to VM cable service 2 months ago for a faster service. VM has been good but deteriorated over past 2 weeks . This weekend I had no service at all in peak hours...rang their Customer Service as one does lol. Overseas call centre who after normal inane questions said 'there is a problem in your area' but couldn't tell me what the problem was or when it would be fixed. My niece lives 5 mins drive from me...no probs with her connection but tv reception has been daggy all week. So...would I recommend VM over BT? As far as I can see, they are all as bad as one and other. Once you have signed up with them, you may as well sing for information when you have a problem.

SideWeaver · 20-09-2010, 18:28

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Not really a valid argument as BT Infinity will be FTTC, exactly the same as VM.

Ok I was slightly out there with what I said, however VM have been doing Cable a lot longer than BT on a residential scale. So they are going to have a lot of work to do.

Chrysalis · 21-09-2010, 07:12

Bt infinity in itself is a poor product (in my view). Low usage limits and traffic shaping.

The advantage it has is higher upload speed. People using infinity have even started to report congestion issues now.

However FTTC the technology should see better competition for VM as a whole especially when the best isps take it up. AAISP probably the only decent one at the moment but they are not mass market.

SideWeaver · 21-09-2010, 12:55

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Bt infinity in itself is a poor product (in my view). Low usage limits and traffic shaping.

The advantage it has is higher upload speed. People using infinity have even started to report congestion issues now.

However FTTC the technology should see better competition for VM as a whole especially when the best isps take it up. AAISP probably the only decent one at the moment but they are not mass market.

If BT were brave enough to invest in FTTH like houses in the US gets then I may consider them in the future. However I think I am going to stay with VM. It might not be Fibre coming down my garden, however the fact that I do not have to worry that the connection is gonna destabilize is enough for me.

Like I said, moving away from a BT line to underground cable was the best move I made personally.