I'm on XL [20mb] & getting 2mb UP? - Page 4

rickymallory · 29-01-2010, 04:20

It's good news they are trialling faster uploads but still 2Mb upload on a 20Mb connection is poor in world standards. I've seen packages in other countries on the lines of 15/5. or 25/25 or 50/20.

I feel 20Mb should at least have 10Mb upload, but that's my opinion.

broadbandking · 29-01-2010, 11:40

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Originally Posted by rickymallory

It's good news they are trialling faster uploads but still 2Mb upload on a 20Mb connection is poor in world standards. I've seen packages in other countries on the lines of 15/5. or 25/25 or 50/20.

I feel 20Mb should at least have 10Mb upload, but that's my opinion.

Really? Why should VM give you a 10Mb upload on 20Mb when they charge you peanuts for it?

Ignitionnet · 29-01-2010, 12:30

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Originally Posted by rickymallory

It's good news they are trialling faster uploads but still 2Mb upload on a 20Mb connection is poor in world standards. I've seen packages in other countries on the lines of 15/5. or 25/25 or 50/20.

I feel 20Mb should at least have 10Mb upload, but that's my opinion.

Those are on networks that are fibre all the way. The 10/1, 20/2, 50/5 are pretty comparable to other operators on cable networks.

I pushed for a 10:1 ratio. Anything better is a bonus.

pabscars · 29-01-2010, 12:37

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Those are on networks that are fibre all the way. The 10/1, 20/2, 50/5 are pretty comparable to other operators on cable networks.

I pushed for a 10:1 ratio. Anything better is a bonus.

Why is the ratio important, sorry if this is stupid question but I dont understand why we cant have 1:1 ratio's

Ignitionnet · 29-01-2010, 12:57

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Originally Posted by pabscars

Why is the ratio important, sorry if this is stupid question but I dont understand why we cant have 1:1 ratio's

Simple explanation cable isn't built symmetrically, was originally made for cable TV with the upstream as an 'afterthought'.

Have a read of this.

Even shiny new networks only offer at best 20:3 unless you're psycho Japanese guys who are spending loads of money and rebuilding everything. Full symmetry is feasible eventually, but not right now and no point in holding back progress.

pabscars · 29-01-2010, 15:56

Thanks for the link, it takes a bit of digesting but I read it all

However what I meant to ask was from a stability/reliability point of view, if you have a low upload compared to download speed, does this effect download performance as well, if so at what point (ratio wise) does it become a problem.

Once the upload upgrade is rolled out, what is the likelihood of upload saturation causing issues.

Blackened · 29-01-2010, 16:18

@ Broadbandings - thanks for the info. Interesting read.

Aside from torrents/file uploads and gaming, are there any other advantages of this upload speed increase for the general user? Quicker handshakes etc?
Or is it kind of given it's generally as quick as it could be?
I once read browsing speed (in terms of pulling down data) can't get *much* quicker with a faster connection as the servers can only reply so fast, but would a faster up speed initiate a *much* quicker handshake, say?
I say this from a VM user who has serious problems on occasion with connecting to (only) certain sites.
Probably way off, but curious anyway.

Ignitionnet · 29-01-2010, 17:05

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Originally Posted by pabscars

However what I meant to ask was from a stability/reliability point of view, if you have a low upload compared to download speed, does this effect download performance as well, if so at what point (ratio wise) does it become a problem.

It depends at what point it becomes an issue. Depends on what you are using to download, the settings on each side, if a few things in cable networks that reduce need to acknowledge packets are on, etc.

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Once the upload upgrade is rolled out, what is the likelihood of upload saturation causing issues.

Given it's causing issues now without the upgrades how long is a piece of string?

Depending on how it's implemented it can certainly increase likelihood of issues, if they do it properly it'll remedy many of the existing issues.

zag · 02-02-2010, 23:26

Wow just checked back after the initial post.... what a read :-) ta guys.....
Still liking my 20/2 & will be gutted if it goes.......

janipewter · 04-02-2010, 06:08

Anyone have any idea on the rollout schedule for this upgrade? Will it be this year? I'd be happy to have 20/2 instead of paying £50 to upgrade to 50meg...20Mbit down is fine for me I just wanted the faster upload.

Ignitionnet · 04-02-2010, 09:09

Absolutely no idea at all Jani, as mentioned previously VM are showing a seriously lack of enthusiasm about this project and while stuff might be happening behind the scenes a whole lot of nothing is happening visibly.

A serious dose of JFDI is needed really.

janipewter · 06-02-2010, 20:26

Sigh. I take it they'll have some ridiculous traffic management on the upload too once it gets upgraded. This is a **** take.

zag · 12-02-2010, 00:33

WTF - thought I'd try again to see if I was still getting it & I'm getting 4Mb/s up now :-)

---------- Post added at 23:33 ---------- Previous post was at 23:30 ----------

had to confirm that was not a speedtest FU so i uploaded 20mb to my ftp server:
Command: STOR Ulead VideoStudio9 Full_Patch1_5in1.exe
Response: 150 Accepted data connection
Response: 226-File successfully transferred
Response: 226 40.951 seconds (measured here), 474.67 Kbytes per second
Status: File transfer successful

---------- Post added at 23:33 ---------- Previous post was at 23:33 ----------

:-)

janipewter · 12-02-2010, 14:15

I hate my life

broadbandking · 12-02-2010, 16:37

Fair play not bad at all Zag, can you post your modem config so we can see the config file value please.