Upload Speed for 50Mb when it being upgraded

[AdamD]

Originally Posted by shady252

Does this mean you really, really hate me

Heh yea, pretty much

Are you on a 10mb upload or something?

[shady252]

yep looks like they're trialling 10mb in Huddersfield.
The biggest shame is i don't actually need that much of an upload I'm hardly using it.

[Welshchris]

i wonder when the 50mb uploads are upgraded the 20mb will be upgraded as they said they were doing the same time as they did mention the 20mb was being upped to 1.5mb and 50mb to 3mb originally

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Welshchris

i wonder when the 50mb uploads are upgraded the 20mb will be upgraded as they said they were doing the same time as they did mention the 20mb was being upped to 1.5mb and 50mb to 3mb originally

VM have never said anything of the sort. I think you're quoting the rumour mill there not Virgin. The only thing they have ever said officially is that they would be trialling speeds of up to 10Mbps. The rumour mill mentioned 2.5Mbps rising to 5Mbps when channel bonding was introduced on the 50Mbps service bus has never as far as I know mentioned doubling of speeds or any uplift for anything apart from 50Mbps. The very specific reasons for upgrading the 50Mbps service, keeping up with BT's next generation access network, really don't apply to the lower tiers.

Unsure if it'll even be an 'upgrade'. Given that BT charge extra for an upstream uplift from 2Mbps to 10Mbps on their FTTC service I see no reason why VM wouldn't take the opportunity to both offer the choice and make a few quid.

[crazyronnie]

10mb up thats awesome

[callanish]

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

VM have never said anything of the sort. I think you're quoting the rumour mill there not Virgin. The only thing they have ever said officially is that they would be trialling speeds of up to 10Mbps. The rumour mill mentioned 2.5Mbps rising to 5Mbps when channel bonding was introduced on the 50Mbps service bus has never as far as I know mentioned doubling of speeds or any uplift for anything apart from 50Mbps. The very specific reasons for upgrading the 50Mbps service, keeping up with BT's next generation access network, really don't apply to the lower tiers.

Unsure if it'll even be an 'upgrade'. Given that BT charge extra for an upstream uplift from 2Mbps to 10Mbps on their FTTC service I see no reason why VM wouldn't take the opportunity to both offer the choice and make a few quid.

...but surely Virgin wouldn't leave 20MB customers with a lousy 768Kbps upload speed while the 50MB customers get that huge upload jump leaving the lesser tiers way behind. Eventually, they've got to throw some kind of bone towards 20MB customers and below when they do get the upload infrastructure in place. I'd be happy with a consistent 1.5MB upload speed. Is that too much to ask on the VIP package, because based on everything I'm reading about how other ISP's are continually promoting faster upload rates, I don't think Virgin can afford to take giving customers slow upload speeds for granted and I mean that for every tier level.

[Rik]

I would happily pay a few extra quid for a 10Mb upload speed

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by callanish

...but surely Virgin wouldn't leave 20MB customers with a lousy 768Kbps upload speed while the 50MB customers get that huge upload jump leaving the lesser tiers way behind. Eventually, they've got to throw some kind of bone towards 20MB customers and below when they do get the upload infrastructure in place. I'd be happy with a consistent 1.5MB upload speed. Is that too much to ask on the VIP package, because based on everything I'm reading about how other ISP's are continually promoting faster upload rates, I don't think Virgin can afford to take giving customers slow upload speeds for granted and I mean that for every tier level.

Why do they and why can't they given they have so far?

The only reason the 50 may receive an upgrade is to keep up with BT's 40/2, 40/10 and 100/10 services. The 20M is irrelevant to this.

Other ISPs don't promote these faster upload rates sadly, most barely mention it. Only BT mentioning it on their 40M and 100M products appears to have provoked some reaction.

VM have been able to afford to take giving customers slow upstream speeds across all tiers for years ya know. If people care that much about upstream they'll upgrade and/or pay more for an upload boost.

[Ignitionnet]

Some argumentative bumhole seems to take great delight in winding VM up over the upload thing.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...d-p/229/page/5

[|Kippa|]

What time scale would we be looking at for 5mbit to be rolled out nationally after the trial? Beginning, middle or end of 2010? Any ideas/guesses?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by |Kippa|

What time scale would we be looking at for 5mbit to be rolled out nationally after the trial? Beginning, middle or end of 2010? Any ideas/guesses?

Sheesh given how much trouble they are having right now with the current speeds who knows.

[slowcoach]

During the past 6 weeks or so average speeds here have improved to the point that speed tests usually show 50.10 and 1.65 Mb.
Single connection downloads from Debian show a steady 5.97MB with the occasional brief drop when a corrupt package is resent.
There is very little variation no matter what time of day or evening.

I am using a D-Link DIR-655 router wired. I have never had a problem with the connection dropping out, it is up 24/7 serving a couple of web sites in the background.
Having said that, speeds have always been quite good here, but in the past downloads would drop to the low 40's occasionally at peak time.

[Ignitionnet]

http://onewayinternet.blogspot.com/2...-mouth-is.html

Looks like the man is keeping his 50 quid, VM seem to be having some trouble with the existing upstreams!

[Ignitionnet]

Here's a nice article for you, yep cellular LTE is faster than Virgin's fibre optic mother of all broadband on upstream at the moment.

O2 are trialling it in Slough at the moment.

[Ignitionnet]

Quick update as people might remember me mentioning UPC a while ago when they were just releasing 60 and 120Mbit as brand new products in Netherlands.

All speeds are in Mbit, UPC are a pan-European cable company and subsidiary of Liberty Global. http://www.lgi.com/europe.html

I see UPC have released DOCSIS 3 in Czech Republic.

100Mbit downstream / 10Mbit upstream and 50/5, the 100/10 being less than 30GBP and the 50 about 23.

In Hungary too. 120/10 and 60/6 with guaranteed minimums of 30/4 and 20/3 at 29GBP and 26GBP respectively.

And Slovakia, 60/6 and 120/10. 30 and 40 Euros a month respectively.

And Austria, 50/5 and 100/10.

And Poland, 50/5 and 120/10.

No DOCSIS 3 in Romania so they have to make do with 12/2 and 24/4.

Switzerland has 25/2.5 on non-DOCSIS 3 with 10/5, 50/5 and 100/7 on DOCSIS 3.

Netherlands has had 30/3, 60/6, 90/6 and 120/10 for a while.

Zon in Portugal deliver 50/3, 100/6 and 200/10 over DOCSIS 3. Cabovisao deliver 60/3 and 120/6.

Numéricable France, 100/5 and ridiculously cheap it appears to be the only tier they do :o

Kabel Deutscheland max out at 32/2, including a phone line 30 euros a month.

Kabel BW do 50/2.5.

I will find a cable company somewhere in Europe with worse ratio and upstream than us, has to be one somewhere.