Virgin's 50Mb broadband arriving December 15?

[broadbandbug]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

i had been told it will be 50mb ready for all uk nationwide on the monday, december 15th 2008 and i had been told there will be no need of nationwide roll out but need to sign up online on the 1th december to order 50mb called XXL at £52 a month with free router cable (support 50mb) and will be in a 12 months contract. The upload will be 1.2mb. Going up to 2.4mb in 2009. also been told that 50Mb will be STM (traffic management) 12 hours of 16Mb throttling.

There will be a % of the network available for sales from mid December, then it will increase through Jan 09.. Then full rollout will complete in stages throughout the first half of 2009.

So there will be areas that don't have 50Mb/s until around June/July 09.

[Zhadnost]

Well then fingers crossed there will be an early version of the roll-out plan released in a couple of weeks.

[Rone]

There bound to stm it, who's going to pay that just to send e-mails.

[telfordcable]

I think 50Mb will be STM same as goes for 2Mb, 10Mb, 20Mb and 50Mb. VM will never going to axed the traffic management.

I prefer that VM would scrap speed cap and replace it with usage allowance cap like eg:

2Mb - 15Gb a month, 10Mb - 30Gb a month, 20Mb - 60Gb a month and 50Mb - 120Gb a month

[broadbandking]

That would suck because once you have hit those limits you will get charged or cut off, atleast with STM you can continue to download, not that I support STM but rather have it than a cap, I remember when NTL was set to release 10Mb with a 75Gb limit, that soon went.

I doubt VM will use STM on 50Mb but as David said they have been known to shaft people.

[telfordcable]

no, what i mean is once, they hit usage cap, download speed will be limit to 128k until next billing date to reset the usage and speed back to normal. I really hate STM because i hardly downloading anything and they throttling my 20Mb down to 3Mb is a joke !!! (oh VM - why they say 5Mb cap speed but cap me at 3Mb ?)

[Zhadnost]

If that's the case, there may be something more fundementally wrong with your service.

I sometimes hit STM, but always get 5Mbit when I do.

[zing]

Originally Posted by broadbandking

That would suck because once you have hit those limits you will get charged or cut off, atleast with STM you can continue to download, not that I support STM but rather have it than a cap, I remember when NTL was set to release 10Mb with a 75Gb limit, that soon went.

I doubt VM will use STM on 50Mb but as David said they have been known to shaft people.

the only way they could sell me 50 meg on a contract would be if it was not subject to STM cuz the minute they do it id cancel my contract as its just not worth 50 quid. Lets face it anyone can get all they need outside STM even if that means a big queue and a nighttime download. No one needs 50 meg some may need the bigger upload but not 50 meg down

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Originally Posted by broadbandbug

There will be a % of the network available for sales from mid December, then it will increase through Jan 09.. Then full rollout will complete in stages throughout the first half of 2009.

So there will be areas that don't have 50Mb/s until around June/July 09.

so if your first you get 6 months then when its fully rolled out and they STM it you cancel as a change of terms only any real use if your area is first though

[Horace]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

I think 50Mb will be STM same as goes for 2Mb, 10Mb, 20Mb and 50Mb. VM will never going to axed the traffic management.

I prefer that VM would scrap speed cap and replace it with usage allowance cap like eg:

2Mb - 15Gb a month, 10Mb - 30Gb a month, 20Mb - 60Gb a month and 50Mb - 120Gb a month

No thanks. I download well over 60Gb a month and can't remember the last time I was hit by STM. STM can stay for as long as they want as far as I'm concerned since the alternatives are much worse.

[Jabbs]

If they introduced caps i would be off i much prefer the STM and knowing you can download pretty much what you want than pathetic caps.

[telfordcable]

I disagree. I think usage cap is better than STM. Many uk's isps using usage cap and it work out pretty well better than STM.

Come on VM - act now bring back usage cap and scrap STM.

[broadbandking]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

I disagree. I think usage cap is better than STM. Many uk's isps using usage cap and it work out pretty well better than STM.

Come on VM - act now bring back usage cap and scrap STM.

So for example you have a mad download session for 2 weeks and go over your cap and they you cant use the internet for 2 weeks

Originally Posted by telfordcable

I disagree. I think usage cap is better than STM. Many uk's isps using usage cap and it work out pretty well better than STM.

Come on VM - act now bring back usage cap and scrap STM.

That just replaces one problem with another.

Once 50mb is fully rolled out and un-stm'd as promised by VM's bosses to the City, the 10 and 20mb tiers will be moved onto the same network as the 50mb tier freeing up oodles of bandwidth for the bottom tier. There is no reason then why VM should have any kind of traffic management at all. It was only brought in because the current network couldn't cope with demand. Having one or two frequencies for your entire broadband service was ridiculous.

But, as always there's a sting in the tail and I would expect the application management to be implemented then to quell the illegal downloading.

We'll all be able to download what we want then at any time of the day at maximum speed, just not the good stuff for free.

[Rone]

Either way web browsing seems slower now on 20 meg than it was on 2 meg years back, and i cant see 50 meg making browsing any faster, so for most people its going to be mainly for downloading.
Having seen the size of a blue-ray disc to download, that would be one of the few benefits of 50meg if your in a hurry.

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

no, what i mean is once, they hit usage cap, download speed will be limit to 128k until next billing date to reset the usage and speed back to normal. I really hate STM because i hardly downloading anything and they throttling my 20Mb down to 3Mb is a joke !!! (oh VM - why they say 5Mb cap speed but cap me at 3Mb ?)

That's madness mate having those download limits!! 60gig is nothing on a 20mbit connection, now if it was 500gig a month that would be better.