Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing - Page 12

CrowmanUK · 20-08-2008, 08:09

How would you stand if you hadnt seeded 100% of the file you were accused of sharing? As anybody knows who has used p2p software if you've got 99% of something then it wont work, so if you've only shared an incomplete file then you've given somebody a lot of data that in effect is useless.

zinglebarb · 20-08-2008, 09:16

seeding just a block is still breach and distribution which is the main offence

foreverwar · 20-08-2008, 09:17

I thought that the downloader (the recipient) received the file from a number of uploaders (seeders), so you wouldn't be uploading the whole of the file, only part of it; so, in answer to your question, "you're nicked, chummy".

btw, it just escalated.
TimesOnline
"Five of the world’s top games developers will serve notice on 25,000 people across the UK, requiring each one to pay Â£300 immediately to settle out of court. Those who refuse risk being taken to court. The companies will target their initial legal actions on 500 people who ignore the letters."

BenMcr · 20-08-2008, 17:15

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...t_lyons_25000/

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In possibly related news, customers of Be Unlimited, BT, Easynet (Sky), Entanet, KCom (Karoo and Eclipse) Orange, Plusnet, Thus (Demon) and Tiscali were all fingered for filesharing in an application for personal details granted by the High Court on 30 June. IP addresses were seen participating in peer-to-peer networks sharing copyright material.

But not Virgin

Toto · 20-08-2008, 19:12

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...t_lyons_25000/

But not Virgin

Yet!

Pedro1 · 11-10-2008, 07:26

Sure Sure. Bring it on. If we cannot download then the broadband industry will go down the drain. Not sure our ISP's want that. LOL. We are meeting the current demands for faster broadband. And we want it for downloading. Deep down i think ISP's know that and therefor should protect us. If they don't then it's there loss.

Toto · 11-10-2008, 08:44

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Originally Posted by Pedro1

Sure Sure. Bring it on. If we cannot download then the broadband industry will go down the drain. Not sure our ISP's want that. LOL. We are meeting the current demands for faster broadband. And we want it for downloading. Deep down i think ISP's know that and therefor should protect us. If they don't then it's there loss.

Downloading isn't the issue here, its the uploaders they are chasing, still your point is well made.

Enuff · 11-10-2008, 10:33

But I thought everybody just downloaded Linux distros?

cook1984 · 21-10-2008, 23:30

Interesting article:

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...-peers-081020/

So now TPB are framing random IP addresses. Expect a flood of bogus claims any time soon.

books · 22-10-2008, 02:34

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Originally Posted by Pedro1

Sure Sure. Bring it on. If we cannot download then the broadband industry will go down the drain. Not sure our ISP's want that. LOL. We are meeting the current demands for faster broadband. And we want it for downloading. Deep down i think ISP's know that and therefor should protect us. If they don't then it's there loss.

Yes. The day they stop people from downloading illegal films/games/music, is the day probably 98% of their customers leave.

Even sending letters is likely to cause a shift.

Toto · 22-10-2008, 06:39

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Originally Posted by cook1984

Interesting article:

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...-peers-081020/

So now TPB are framing random IP addresses. Expect a flood of bogus claims any time soon.

No, remember that part of the evidence gathering process is to take some or all of the file from an IP address. Flooding a torrent request with fake IP's doesn't work because you wouldn't be able to get evidence from it.

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Of course, this doesn’t work when the pirate-tracking company requires itself to connect to the peer, before the IP-address is collected, since it is impossible to connect to a non-existing peer

The methods used by the BPI mean that they can produce file evidence because they have collected it, which means they have connected to the peer.

piggy · 22-10-2008, 14:27

"The methods used by the BPI mean that they can produce file evidence because they have collected it, which means they have connected to the peer."

this has not been tested in a court of law yet, or has it?

foreverwar · 22-10-2008, 15:46

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Originally Posted by piggy

"The methods used by the BPI mean that they can produce file evidence because they have collected it, which means they have connected to the peer."

this has not been tested in a court of law yet, or has it?

Be careful what you wish for.....

Nugget · 22-10-2008, 15:49

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Be careful what you wish for.....

Absolutely - have you still got that 12-inch pianist?

Toto · 22-10-2008, 15:56

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Originally Posted by piggy

"The methods used by the BPI mean that they can produce file evidence because they have collected it, which means they have connected to the peer."

this has not been tested in a court of law yet, or has it?

Yes, they have, you'll need to scan "The Register" for some articles, but I'm not sure if the validity of the evidence has ever been tested. However, in the context of this discussion no they haven't produced files in court, simply because they don't need to as this is a voluntary agreement with the ISP's.

I found this article quickly, there may be more.