Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
04-08-2008, 14:06
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
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true but aren't these new newsgroups ran by different people? it could have been simply overlooked and if anyone complains or whatever the access will be removed again
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That would make sense, but overlooked by a company like VM etc, when someone like myself (and everyone else) can see it would then make those in charge look a bit thick by any standards. But then again we are talking about VM here so I'll take that back. 
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04-08-2008, 14:49
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That would make sense, but overlooked by a company like VM etc, when someone like myself (and everyone else) can see it would then make those in charge look a bit thick by any standards. But then again we are talking about VM here so I'll take that back. |
i doubt VM are in total charge of the servers
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19-08-2008, 15:31
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
It's now moving on to game filesharing.
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19-08-2008, 15:48
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
What an absolutely pathetic and rubbish game to get done for... 
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19-08-2008, 16:04
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
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What an absolutely pathetic and rubbish game to get done for... |
A "interesting" quote from the law firm involved, on it's website
DavenportLyons
" Davenport Lyons has recently been asked by media rights owners to obtain further disclosure orders against Internet service providers. These claims mostly relate to computer games, but films, software and music will also be involved.
Several thousand names and addresses have already been ordered by the High Court of London to be released by the ISPs concerned. Another application is set to be issued at court in relation to a further 7,000 IP addresses.
The evidence supporting the disclosure applications and subsequent proceedings is obtained by forensic computer experts Logistep AG, based in Switzerland, who have developed software programs to search for and accurately identify the IP addresses used to upload the copyright owners’ work.
All UK claims brought are civil actions under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988. There have been similar actions in other jurisdictions throughout Europe (although different procedures are often used)."
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19-08-2008, 16:06
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19-08-2008, 16:54
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
I've said it before, but its worth saying again.
We have been warned! This action is the result of somebody thinking it could not happen to them, even after the summons have dropped through the door. What was likely a request for a few hundred pounds is now the value of a 10% deposit on a modest size home.
When are people going to sit up and learn?
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19-08-2008, 19:11
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
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What an absolutely pathetic and rubbish game to get done for... |
You say that, but… honestly, what would you do if one of the next seven thousand letters from Davenport Lyons arrived on your doormat, accusing you of having distributed Dream Pinball 3D? It might be a mistake on the part of one or more of Logistep, Topware Interactive, Davenport Lyons and Virgin Media. It might be a security breach of your computer or home network. But, how would you proceed, especially with so many parties involved? Would you pay the initial amount demanded by Davenport Lyons? Or, would you spend many months and many thousands of pounds defending yourself in court, with no guarantee of winning and with the very real prospect of having to submit all your computing and data storage equipment for months of forensic examination?
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19-08-2008, 19:51
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
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You say that, but… honestly, what would you do if one of the next seven thousand letters from Davenport Lyons arrived on your doormat, accusing you of having distributed Dream Pinball 3D? It might be a mistake on the part of one or more of Logistep, Topware Interactive, Davenport Lyons and Virgin Media. It might be a security breach of your computer or home network. But, how would you proceed, especially with so many parties involved? Would you pay the initial amount demanded by Davenport Lyons? Or, would you spend many months and many thousands of pounds defending yourself in court, with no guarantee of winning and with the very real prospect of having to submit all your computing and data storage equipment for months of forensic examination?
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Simple! I don't file share and the police are perfectly free to look at my PC and all my records...And then I'll get my brother-in-law who is a solicitor onto their case...
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19-08-2008, 19:53
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**** Vm and all these all ******s. I will continue to use newsgroups.
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19-08-2008, 20:02
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
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**** Vm and all these all ******s. I will continue to use newsgroups.
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Not exactly VM's fault, they were ordered by the courts to supply customer data, although we don't know if that woman who was fined was with VM.
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19-08-2008, 20:46
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
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Simple! I don't file share and the police are perfectly free to look at my PC and all my records...And then I'll get my brother-in-law who is a solicitor onto their case...
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It wouldn’t be the police, but a private firm that Davenport Lyons choose and you don’t object to, presumably Logistep AG. Unlike yourself, I doubt that Isabella Barwinska has a brother-in-law expert in English copyright law. Similarly, I have no relatives suitably qualified. And, I do object to having to give up all electronic privacy for something so relatively unimportant. This is not a criminal matter.
If it were to follow the American model, you’d also have to give a list of all your friends and family who could possibly have accessed your computer or network connection, so they can all be vigorously pursued. I don’t know if an English court would allow that or not. It’s also not clear whether you’d be liable in a case where your security had been compromised. Davenport Lyons’ position has been that you are.
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19-08-2008, 22:15
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
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It wouldn’t be the police, but a private firm that Davenport Lyons choose and you don’t object to, presumably Logistep AG. Unlike yourself, I doubt that Isabella Barwinska has a brother-in-law expert in English copyright law. Similarly, I have no relatives suitably qualified. And, I do object to having to give up all electronic privacy for something so relatively unimportant. This is not a criminal matter.
If it were to follow the American model, you’d also have to give a list of all your friends and family who could possibly have accessed your computer or network connection, so they can all be vigorously pursued. I don’t know if an English court would allow that or not. It’s also not clear whether you’d be liable in a case where your security had been compromised. Davenport Lyons’ position has been that you are.
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So what's your beef with me?Just what is it you are taking issue with?
A throwaway remark about a game that no one in their right mind would want to play so desperately that they would file share it?
I've no objection to you keeping your privacy.However I do contend that the originator of software,artwork and music does have some right to be PAID for that which they produce.
Not anything posted in a forum though...that's taking the micky to think you have an intellectual right to that which you post in a forum... 
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20-08-2008, 02:39
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
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So what's your beef with me?
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Sorry. I don’t have a beef with you. I apologise for quoting you. I could have made my post without referring back to yours.
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20-08-2008, 05:47
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Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal file sharing
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**** Vm and all these all ******s. I will continue to use newsgroups.
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Safest option. They would have to raid the Newsgroup servers to be able to catch you.
Newsgroups are far more secure than the likes of Limewire and Bittorrent.
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