50mbit or better upload speeds?

[Zhadnost]

Well you never know, we may be pleasantly surprised when they've finally unified the network and gone through the analogue switch off.

[Impz2002]

Originally Posted by Zhadnost

Well you never know, we may be pleasantly surprised when they've finally unified the network and gone through the analogue switch off.

My sentiments exactly. VM deserve a clean break and i think they are doing the right thing by investing in new technology instead of trying to fix the current out dated stuff ! a little pain now will reap great rewards in the future especially as there are still no major plans for BT's Fibre. I know they have said they are rolling out fibre in certain area's but the coverage will be nothing compared to Virgin's potential market. And lets remember folks that DOCSIS 3 can provide a symetrical 100mbps (or more!) link should VM ever decide to launch it.

DOCSIS 3 is the key!

Impz

[Zhadnost]

Yeah, so no moaning about a company whose Senior VP, Divisional lives in New York and last year got $625,173 (including over $500,000 in options).

They also have another director who lives on Rhode Island and last year got $621,492 and is clearly a busy man being the MD of an investment Capital Management firm, an entertainment management company director and the director of a company that sells prescription drugs.

A thoroughly British company. (which in their 2007 annual report stated that "We may not be able to fund our debt service obligations through operating cash flow in the future.").

Still, to get back on topic. Even if the 50Mbit service is only launched with 1.5Mbit upstream, I can't imagine it will stay that way for very long.

[Fatec]

Originally Posted by Impz2002

My sentiments exactly. VM deserve a clean break and i think they are doing the right thing by investing in new technology instead of trying to fix the current out dated stuff ! a little pain now will reap great rewards in the future especially as there are still no major plans for BT's Fibre. I know they have said they are rolling out fibre in certain area's but the coverage will be nothing compared to Virgin's potential market. And lets remember folks that DOCSIS 3 can provide a symetrical 100mbps (or more!) link should VM ever decide to launch it.

DOCSIS 3 is the key!

Impz

1)They are not rolling out docsis3, it's predocsis3, there is a difference (albeit not much)

2)They cant afford to rollout docsis3, they hit their budget and went straight over it within a month

3)It's going to take 2-3 years to fully roll out docsis3 as half of the network needs a complete overhaul.

4)As for BT, well, alot you dont know about that

5)Yes, docsis3 can provide 100Mbit symetrical, providing the network is in good shape, you dont over subscribe AND you have good network link ups, which VM do not, they are only just upgrading to 40G link ups, poor and will need upgrading yet again in the future.

6)50MBit is set to launch with STM, they are just undecided on the limits, are you seriously going to pay a high price for a premium product which your only allowed to use for 20 minutes?

Then there is the poor upload rates which they are going to supply with it, making them have the worst down/up ratio in the whole of the UK!

[icestar2]

Originally Posted by TraxData2

Maybe elvis isnt dead, either.

He aint dead he just went home !

[ryuzaki]

Originally Posted by TraxData2

6)50MBit is set to launch with STM, they are just undecided on the limits, are you seriously going to pay a high price for a premium product which your only allowed to use for 20 minutes?

Then there is the poor upload rates which they are going to supply with it, making them have the worst down/up ratio in the whole of the UK!

I think those are the key points here - 50meg is going to be very expensive, so only people who really want to download a lot will bother with it, only you are not going to be able to download a lot with it...

Some people will argue that outside of STM times you will be able to hammer it, but as already pointed out the upload speed to too low to make it a realistic option. It also misses the point that many people will want it to do HD streaming at peak times, or that I'd say the chances of actually getting 50meg when VM struggle to supply 20 are pretty low.

The worst thing about all this is that it will be taken as a sign that no-one wants higher speed broadband in the UK. Well, to be fair, I think a lot of people want no STM and a better upload speed before they want a higher download speed. If I lived nearer to the exchange I'd switch to Be in an instant - as it is I'm thinking of trying it anyway. 2.5meg upload sounds nice.

[Pedro1]

Originally Posted by InsaneNutter

With all the talk about the upcoming 50mbit service I’m wondering if anyone else would sooner have something like 25mbit download and upload instead of 50mbit download and 1.5mbit upload (i think it was?)

I know would sooner have a decent upload speed, I’m more than happy with the 20mbit download speed I can get now, but I think the upload speeds are in need of some serious attention. Even my parents think it’s like been on dialup with the time it takes to upload some short video’s and photos of family gatherings.

C'mon the upload speed. Am happy with the 20MB down. Most times i need the UP STREAM MORE. Totally agree with you there.

But i won't knock back 50 down and 25 up lol lol ...

[Enuff]

How about 512kb/s down and 49.5Mb/s up?

[Zaim7890]

Originally Posted by Enuff

How about 512kb/s down and 49.5Mb/s up?

lol, maybe in 2020 :P

[Pedro1]

49.5mb up would be brill and leave us with the 20mb down, mmmm like the sound of that.

[Zaim7890]

what would be gd is:
DL UL
2mbit - 512kbps
10mbit - 2mbit
20mbit - 4mbit

^ that would be better, but knowing vm thats not gunna happen

[fugu]

Dont know how true this is, but i was once told by an ex ntl employee that if 50% of the custmers were uploading at full speed it would crash the network. Guess it make some sense given the poor upload rates we recieve, and small increases in up speed.

[Pedro1]

Originally Posted by fugu

Dont know how true this is, but i was once told by an ex ntl employee that if 50% of the custmers were uploading at full speed it would crash the network. Guess it make some sense given the poor upload rates we recieve, and small increases in up speed.

Its all down to money... What they want to give you and when they want to give you it am sure.....// The tech is out there....

[Ricksta7]

I am roughly getting Upstream of 180kbps on 2Mbit package... Quite low, but as you all rightly say, I would much prefer fasdter upload speeds as apose to download speeds.

[Pedro1]

I strongly agree.