Cloned Modems and STM

[Toto]

Originally Posted by TraxData

I suggest you re-read, most cloners are people who pay for minimum packages.

That makes about 1million cloners on the VM network, sticking my neck out here I'd have to say..............extremely unlikely.

Originally Posted by Toto

That makes about 1million cloners on the VM network, sticking my neck out here I'd have to say..............extremely unlikely.

Do you really think if it was a small percentage like VM tell people they would of even bothered to pour so MUCH money into stopping them? the amount spent wouldnt of even touched over the amount they were losing.

[Toto]

Originally Posted by TraxData

Do you really think if it was a small percentage like VM tell people they would of even bothered to pour so MUCH money into stopping them? the amount spent wouldnt of even touched over the amount they were losing.

OK, what have you got to back that up?

[grubbymitts]

Trax,
So you're not on VM anymore - fine. You also, as far as I'm aware, don't work for VM. So, instead of saying "35%" "1 in every 10" etc, back it up with actual proof or stop interrupting threads with pointless information.

The OP of this thread wanted to know if his modem had been cloned and that was why it was slow. The answer to this was unlikely, and it may be some other problem. You wade in to the discussion and throw numbers about and accuse a vast majority of the Grimsby VM subscribers to have once been or still are cloners. Yet you show no evidence.

Show the evidence and I'll believe you. Until then, meh!

[jtwn]

Originally Posted by TraxData

I suggest you re-read, most cloners are people who pay for minimum packages.

If you want to be pedantic to cling onto the 'validity' of your 'facts' then I will point and be pedantic myself in saying that if somebody is using a cloned modem then they are using a service which they haven't paid for....now let me just check what I previously said...

...oh yes!! Exactly that.

Originally Posted by grubbymitts

stop interrupting threads with pointless information.

Okie Dokie, i give up.

[Rob]

Stop going after each other and debate the posts with out flaming and baiting please.

[Jonathan90]

tbh i never doubted traxdata can someone find some information that he has posted wrong? i can't there probably is but whatever he says it normally happens

the op's<--(what does this mean) question maybe check your uplaod speed to check see if u have really been capped or if there are other people in your household just for one day take your modem with you lol then u know for a FACT that noone has downlaoded enything.

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by Jonathan90

tbh i never doubted traxdata can someone find some information that he has posted wrong? i can't there probably is but whatever he says it normally happens

the op's<--(what does this mean) question maybe check your uplaod speed to check see if u have really been capped or if there are other people in your household just for one day take your modem with you lol then u know for a FACT that noone has downlaoded enything.

OP = Original Poster, the person who started the thread.

[broadbandbug]

Originally Posted by Jonathan90

tbh i never doubted traxdata can someone find some information that he has posted wrong? i can't there probably is but whatever he says it normally happens

the op's<--(what does this mean) question maybe check your uplaod speed to check see if u have really been capped or if there are other people in your household just for one day take your modem with you lol then u know for a FACT that noone has downlaoded enything.

Yes.. In fact there are rumours that TraxData is infact a Deity that we should all hail from on high as the bringer of VM news that is never wrong or made up

[Druchii]

Anyone ever considered maybe Trax was giving 35% bandwidth? Not users....

Say VM had 1,000 users all on 2Mb, And had a network capacity of 2Gb. This means all users would have guaranteed 2Mb connections.

Now, 35% of 2,000Mb is 700Mb. So, 700Mb of extra data, that they didn't expect nor cater for.

So, effectively, they now have 2,700Mb data in a 2,000Mb bandwidth window.
See where the problems occur here?

VM have about 3.5Million broadband users... Most of them on the slower packages, and i'm guessing nearly all of the cloners are on the fake 20Mb packages. So, less bandwidth used by real customers, vs. more bandwidth used by non-customers.


Also, what happened to Trax's account?

[Jelly]

His account's been deleted, by the looks of things.

[broadbandbug]

Originally Posted by Druchii

Anyone ever considered maybe Trax was giving 35% bandwidth? Not users....

Say VM had 1,000 users all on 2Mb, And had a network capacity of 2Gb. This means all users would have guaranteed 2Mb connections.

Now, 35% of 2,000Mb is 700Mb. So, 700Mb of extra data, that they didn't expect nor cater for.

So, effectively, they now have 2,700Mb data in a 2,000Mb bandwidth window.
See where the problems occur here?

VM have about 3.5Million broadband users... Most of them on the slower packages, and i'm guessing nearly all of the cloners are on the fake 20Mb packages. So, less bandwidth used by real customers, vs. more bandwidth used by non-customers.


Also, what happened to Trax's account?

No, I have conversed with him on the matter and he does mean 'devices'.

In my mind he is very high in his estimations but have the same amount of data that he has to base this on

[Virgin Bride]

Originally Posted by Jelly

His account's been deleted, by the looks of things.

....and it's his birthday today.....

[eth01]

Originally Posted by Virgin Bride

....and it's his birthday today.....

social drama. haha. on a more serious note, why generalise? do you access to internal stats? hurm ....