Application Throttling/Management - Page 13

Chrysalis · 30-06-2008, 05:19

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Originally Posted by TraxData

Sky stopped using interleaving due to it causing problems on the network, these days they wont let anyone use it.

Correct about the upload issues, i think it's fairly sad when ADSL manages to outdo cable.

umm, if you on adsl2+ you have to have interleaving for stability. On adsl1 they let you use fast path but on the worst lines they will enable interleaving by default. In addition depending on the line interleaving can boost speed. The disadvantage is a latency increase.

Ravenheart · 30-06-2008, 09:08

I had to smile at the banner VM included in their corporate responsibility report 2008 on page 22/23

dragon · 30-06-2008, 09:38

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

umm, if you on adsl2+ you have to have interleaving for stability. On adsl1 they let you use fast path but on the worst lines they will enable interleaving by default. In addition depending on the line interleaving can boost speed. The disadvantage is a latency increase.

Depends on the ISP I have ADSL2+ on fastpath

30-06-2008, 11:24

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Originally Posted by dragon

Depends on the ISP I have ADSL2+ on fastpath

Take it you have BE internet Dragon?

dragon · 30-06-2008, 11:50

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Originally Posted by darthlinux

Take it you have BE internet Dragon?

Yep

Chrysalis · 01-07-2008, 03:05

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Originally Posted by dragon

Depends on the ISP I have ADSL2+ on fastpath

I am reffering to sky.

Ignitionnet · 01-07-2008, 17:56

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Originally Posted by dragon

Yep

And you asked to be put on fastpath as they put people on interleave by default

dragon · 01-07-2008, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

And you asked to be put on fastpath as they put people on interleave by default

Bethere are pretty open about it, they seem to be quite happy to put people on fastpath but as you say you do have to ask for it.

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 24574 kbps 2472 kbps
Line Attenuation 13.5 db 6.0 db
Noise Margin 3.9 db 3.8 db

Griffin · 01-07-2008, 21:23

With all these ideas about restricting speeds for games & downloading via p2p etc, this is going to make having these fast connections a bit like owning a lamborguini in the middle of a fuel shortage

dragon · 01-07-2008, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Griffin

With all these ideas about restricting speeds for games & downloading via p2p etc, this is going to make having these fast connections a bit like owning a lamborguini in the middle of a fuel shortage

Most of the speed limiting I encounter is down to my LAN rather than the ISP.

I use a Wireless/Powerline network so it's very suceptable to local conditions.

I have seen 20Mbit over wi-fi but it's not very often that happens since there's a fair bit of interference around (seems everyone around here has broadband)

As for the powerline network depends if my housemates on the network or not as it seems to form a broadcast domain (or thats what i've read) so the speeds fall.

LostintheNW · 02-07-2008, 08:42

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Originally Posted by Griffin

With all these ideas about restricting speeds for games & downloading via p2p etc, this is going to make having these fast connections a bit like owning a lamborguini in the middle of a fuel shortage

One thing I am wondering given the Xbox 360 and PS3 is that they actually use P2P to setup online games, my xbox live speed is **** with VM so I am wondering if the throttling they are "doing" has any effect at the moment? if so they can shove it

jojo3972 · 02-07-2008, 13:03

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Originally Posted by LostintheNW

One thing I am wondering given the Xbox 360 and PS3 is that they actually use P2P to setup online games, my xbox live speed is **** with VM so I am wondering if the throttling they are "doing" has any effect at the moment? if so they can shove it

does this mean that by using xbox live its going to be counted as downloading/uploading the same as if u dl a movie etc sorry but im not very teci minded jst needed this claryfying cos we have xbox live on at night from around 8 and from about 9 the speedd dramaticaly drop from 18 megs to 3 megs if that withing an hour of xbox going on, jox

nffc · 02-07-2008, 13:06

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Originally Posted by jojo3972

does this mean that by using xbox live its going to be counted as downloading/uploading the same as if u dl a movie etc sorry but im not very teci minded jst needed this claryfying cos we have xbox live on at night from around 8 and from about 9 the speedd dramaticaly drop from 18 megs to 3 megs if that withing an hour of xbox going on, jox

Yes, anything which transfers through the modem to/from the internet counts.

jojo3972 · 02-07-2008, 13:13

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Originally Posted by nffc

Yes, anything which transfers through the modem to/from the internet counts.

omg but surely an xbox live doesnt use that much data transfer arnt we alowed 500mb or summet a day, i did read sumwere that xbox live didnt hardly use any data transfer or watever it is it does, my partner does host games on gears of war will this make much diffrence will it use more than say if he was just joining a game if ya know wat i mean, joxx

Uncle Peter · 02-07-2008, 13:17

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Originally Posted by LostintheNW

One thing I am wondering given the Xbox 360 and PS3 is that they actually use P2P to setup online games, my xbox live speed is **** with VM so I am wondering if the throttling they are "doing" has any effect at the moment? if so they can shove it

It's always been bad particularly when hosting games with a lot of players. Wouldn't be surprised if VM are running queue management to limit the max throughput rates of udp (the main protocol xbox live game traffic uses) to protect browsing and http downloads. This is a completely separate concept to application management however.