Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
08-06-2008, 13:51
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
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Originally Posted by DaiNasty
Sounds like you're doing ok if you are picking up any part of it.
It's really pretty simple. Phorm will have access to everything you can see on any webpage you visit and basically can do whatever they please with that data.
Still, when I think about some of my clients who are puzzled when I even ask them what browser they use I guess it's hardly surprising that more people are not alarmed by what is happening.
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That's as far as my understanding goes.It's the detailed stuff that mystifies me.
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08-06-2008, 17:19
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
Phorm will place a server within the ISP network. This server uses a layer 7 switch, this switch allows deep packet inspection of all your web surfing. When you browse the internet, the websites and pages that you see are transferred to and from your PC in 'packets' of information, it is these 'packets' of information that are intercepted, inspected and profiled.
By inspecting the pages you visit, phorm can strip out information of interest and at the same time give you a unique identification number (UID) so that you can be identified each time you browse the internet. As you continue to browse further information from your surfing is added to your profile.
Questions and answers [first posted 19/2/2008]
From the outset Phorm wanted this system to be opt-out. i.e. you are profiled by default unless you opt-out.
If you opt-out you still get profiled, just the ads and anti-phishing is disabled. [first posted 6/3/2008]
Phorm say: reaserch suggests that customers want this. [first posted 6/2/2008] written by a PR company on behalf of Phorm.
Respected security, legal and privacy experts have checked out the phorm system (to the extent that they were allowed) and have concluded that the system is illegal in the uk as it breaks The data protection Act, the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA), P Electronic Communications Regulations (PECR)
Peter Sommer - this appears to be an interception under RIPA [first posted 4-3-2008]
Channel 4 news picks up the story [first posted 4/3/2008]
Virgin Media introduce a webpage about their version of Webwise [first posted 5/3/2008]
start of discussions with Phorm UK PR/Tech Team [first posted 6/3/2008]
The BBC pick up the story [first posted 7/3/2008]
you continue to be profiled even if opted out [first posted 8/3/2008]
How the story changes over time [first posted 8/3/2008]
Open Rights group questions phorm [first posted 12/3/2008]
80/20 interim PIA is published [first posted 18/3/2008]
80/20 Thinking DOES NOT endorse Phorm! [first posted 19/3/2008]
Alex from Phorm joins in discussions [first posted 4/4/2008]
Profiler and anonymiser discussion [first posted 6/4/2008]
Simon Davies of 80/20 Thinking joins the debate [first posted 10/4/2008]
ICO amends their misleading information [first posted 9/4/2008]
Ms Sanderson replies to Mr Hanff [foirst posted 14/4/2008]
Only up to page 220 of 560!
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14-06-2008, 12:04
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
If you're struggling to know how/who/what to complain, with inspiration from Alex, I've made it a little bit easier for you...
Use this page to generate a letter to send to your MP in just 2 mouse clicks;
http://www.dephormation.org.uk/letters/
All you need is an envelope and a stamp (not supplied!).
Otherwise, a good place to look for the essential information is the inphormationdesk.org
Pete
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14-06-2008, 12:35
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
icysys:
Keep up the good work, it makes the whole phorm debacle easier to manage when it's broken down into bullet points. Funny how VM/phorm keep backtracking and lying when they are caught out.
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17-06-2008, 19:50
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20-06-2008, 14:57
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
Shame that they forced the other thread to be closed which is perhaps the only reason he came to these forums.
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20-06-2008, 15:03
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
Quite possibly.
Thats why I have resisted the temptation to get involved.
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20-06-2008, 15:47
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
Open again
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21-06-2008, 11:59
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21-06-2008, 20:36
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21-06-2008, 20:46
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
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Originally Posted by ceedee
Anybody got any idea how to stay current with Phorm developments other than reading the new posts to the enormous thread?
I simply can't devote an hour every day...
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Don't read it ?
I have not visited these forums for a couple of months and my life has been bliss.
Re-visited it today and my good quality of life has been adversely affected by a miserable bunch of people ranting and moaning about phorm.
Out of sight - out of mind...
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25-06-2008, 23:18
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
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Is that on-topic in a thread on Phorm Apathy?
BTW: I'm apathetic (though I do care) as my ISP isn't involved with Phorm (yet). If they would, I'd leave.
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25-06-2008, 23:21
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
Ok I have unilaterally decided that icsys deserves one of these for his stirling efforts in this thread
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27-06-2008, 01:05
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