Virgin Media and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing

mainlime · 06-06-2008, 11:46

From the Reg :

"Virgin Media will launch a campaign against illegal downloading next week, when it'll begin firing off warning letters to to subscribers that the BPI believes are sharing copyright music files."

Full story : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06...edia_bpi_deal/

Horace · 06-06-2008, 11:58

ISP's have no option in this, either try to help-out voluntarily or get legislated. It's the better of the two evils.

hokkers999 · 06-06-2008, 12:35

There is an article over at The Register talking about dear old VM teaming up with the BPI to send out threatening letters to supposedly illegal music sharers. That's to people who the BPI *believe* are file sharing...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06...edia_bpi_deal/

**Kymmy** · 06-06-2008, 12:57

By the look of it it's not VM who's doing the Ip gathering but the BPI (probably posing as file sharers and checking out the IP's via the RIPE database) They then ask VM to warn the user.

So nothing being passed onto the BPI and the only thing being passed onto VM I presume is IP/Date/Time...

In the end more a case of if you are gonna share stuff like that then choose an anonymous method otherwise start expecting consequences to your actions

Kymmy

darthlinux · 06-06-2008, 13:14

I dont like this but heck its illegal and if you was to rob a car then you have to think I might get caught and if you are you cnt do anything about it apart from dont or find a way to do it where you cant get caught IRC,Newsgroup here we come

mertle · 06-06-2008, 13:18

So what are VM going constitute as illegal and will force warnings.

Take this for instance could this be deemed also a target despite you legally purchase the program.

http://audials.com/en/music_download_videos/index.html

grabbi · 06-06-2008, 13:34

There is a big gaping hole on what could be seen by the ISP and BPI as "illegal".

I mean, all they can really see is how much your downloading in one go.

So, one MP3 is 4Mb, an Album is about 80Mb. So what difference does it make if you use a torrent, Limewire or on a site?

I think they could only really monitor it if your downloading from sites.

v0id · 06-06-2008, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by grabbi

So, one MP3 is 4Mb, an Album is about 80Mb. So what difference does it make if you use a torrent, Limewire or on a site?

You mean more like 25Mb+ for a track, and 250Mb+ for an album.
Unless you don't have quality speakers/headphones

mertle · 06-06-2008, 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by grabbi

There is a big gaping hole on what could be seen by the ISP and BPI as "illegal".

I mean, all they can really see is how much your downloading in one go.

So, one MP3 is 4Mb, an Album is about 80Mb. So what difference does it make if you use a torrent, Limewire or on a site?

I think they could only really monitor it if your downloading from sites.

thats very true the link I showed this is a program which takes the streams from internet radio and you copy them in the same way you used a tape deck few years back to record stations.

They also have a vast libary of mp3 songs at your disposal and yes they download like p2p service.

The radio do give permision I believe to be part of the service and its a very popular highly recommended in music mags.

The do video and podcast service for ipods.

Also there is many sites out there which provide free legal music from artists. One provides the best every month and you download a zip file its great to hear new bands material called obscure sound its an indie music website. Another like using is 3hive. They legal free music sites.

Its seems an unworkable practice how can they tell what is legal / illegal.

**Kymmy** · 06-06-2008, 14:42

The thing is is that at this stage they're purely asking ISP's to send through a letter reminding people that copyrighted file sharing is illegal, hence they're calling it an "educational campaign" No action apart is being taken, and probably no action would be taken via the ISP unless the BPI find some way of holding the ISP's responsible.

It's purely the ISP's trying to keep the BPI semi happy and off thier backs..

Kymmy

darthlinux · 06-06-2008, 15:00

I have just remembered dont ISP's do this anyways I know BE send letters or emails and BT do aswell

nffc · 06-06-2008, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthlinux

I have just remembered dont ISP's do this anyways I know BE send letters or emails and BT do aswell

Yes, someone on here posted a Be* filesharing letter thing a while back.

PeteTheMusicGuy · 06-06-2008, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthlinux

I have just remembered dont ISP's do this anyways I know BE send letters or emails and BT do aswell

Yes they both do so from the sounds of it VM is just doing the same thing

Sirius · 06-06-2008, 17:18

You can bet the bloody cloned modem users don't get a sodding letter. Yet again those that pay for there service will be hit and the cloners who will be using multiple cloned modems and chipped settops will get away with it.

darthlinux · 06-06-2008, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius

You can bet the bloody cloned modem users don't get a sodding letter. Yet again those that pay for there service will be hit and the cloners who will be using multiple cloned modems and chipped settops will get away with it.

Its the way the world works Sirus people who pay there taxs and work for a living get nothing the people who sit on there butts doing nothing get everything and still complain.

Sorry for the off topic post