50Mbit Rollout Has Started
30-04-2008, 19:53
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
I am a bit miffed at STM, but I still love my 20mbit connection. Mind you I am a bit of a night owl and download a fair bit at night so STM doesn't really hurt me. I do hope that once DOCSIS 3 is fully rolled out and VM get a bit more money that the start to go easy on STM.
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30-04-2008, 20:03
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
I can wait for the 50MB downloaders heaven lol as it stand I think 50Mb will not have any stm due to the way docsis 3.0 works
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30-04-2008, 20:04
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
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Originally Posted by darthlinux
I can wait for the 50MB downloaders heaven lol as it stand I think 50Mb will not have any stm due to the way docsis 3.0 works
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Even without STM with only 1.5mbit upload its still not worth 50/month. |
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30-04-2008, 20:16
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
O yeah its shocking VM need to increase the upload I wonder what the upload would be if they released 100meg prob be a 2 or 3 meg upload
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30-04-2008, 20:21
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
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Originally Posted by darthlinux
O yeah its shocking VM need to increase the upload I wonder what the upload would be if they released 100meg prob be a 2 or 3 meg upload
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Maybe they'll give us around 5mbit up when they start doing 1GBit connections. |
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30-04-2008, 22:11
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
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Originally Posted by TraxData
Maybe they'll give us around 5mbit up when they start doing 1GBit connections.
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Do you think that they will last long enough as a business and a company to completely do the 50Mbits? from what I have seen over the years i highly doubt it |
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30-04-2008, 22:32
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
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Originally Posted by Angry@VMedia
Do you think that they will last long enough as a business and a company to completely do the 50Mbits? from what I have seen over the years i highly doubt it
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I hope or I am out of a job 50Mb is gonna be a make or break product for virgin and I really hope they dont **** it up |
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02-05-2008, 00:20
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
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I hope or I am out of a job 50Mb is gonna be a make or break product for virgin and I really hope they dont **** it up
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If that really is the case then I should start looking right now.
STM, even more expense and the rediculously low upload rate make the 50meg tier a non-starter IMO. |
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05-05-2008, 07:55
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
And with their current packet shaping their is no point they will still cap down anyone who actually USES the broadband for more than Email to silly slow speeds, their upload is pathetic and overall for the price it is not worth it.
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05-05-2008, 09:03
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
WOW!, I have 50Mb this morning..............................oops, I must have drank more than I thought last night. It is only 50Kb 
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05-05-2008, 09:08
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
I agree with the majority...If VM want to become/stay No.1 in the broadband market, then they need to abolish STM and increase the upload to a minimum of 5mbit - 10mbit would be preferable, especially for the £47 asking price...
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05-05-2008, 13:58
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
1) I don't give a toss about uploads, 1.5mb will be fine for me
2) They don't packet shape (AndrewJ)
3) I can live with the current STM, but I'd struggle with the new one 
My connection has always been fairly reliable. I'm hoping the new 50mb will be just as good, I'll probably be going for it. |
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05-05-2008, 16:47
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
robertus, you dont seem to realise that to fully maximise a 50Mbit download speed you NEED a 5Mbit upload rate ratio.
the proposed 1.5Mbit is not enough for the return path acknowledgements that a fully used 50Mbit download will generate.
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05-05-2008, 16:52
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
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Originally Posted by popper
robertus, you dont seem to realise that to fully maximise a 50Mbit download speed you NEED a 5Mbit upload rate ratio.
the proposed 1.5Mbit is not enough for the return path acknowledgements that a fully used 50Mbit download will generate.
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Yes it is... Transferring across my home LAN, ACK packets add upto 2.6ish Mbps when transferring at around 75Mbps.
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05-05-2008, 17:00
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Re: 50Mbit Rollout Has Started
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Originally Posted by Druchii
Yes it is... Transferring across my home LAN, ACK packets add upto 2.6ish Mbps when transferring at around 75Mbps.
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A minimum of 1.5mbit upload is needed to fully max out a 50mbit download, you need to include overheads and so fourth.
The problem with that is, if your downloading and maxing your speed out, your browsing will be crippled.
As popper has said around 5mbit is needed to be able to use the connection for multiple tasks. |
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