STM Statement

[lardboy]

Originally Posted by PeteTheMusicGuy

Well when they bring this in they will have plenty of extra bandwith as they wont have any Broadband customers

That's just it they don't want customers that actually want to use the bandwidth they've paid for.

They just want the users that do nothing but browse and email and I'm sure there are millions who do just that.

[dammydam]

do we have a source for this ?

please ignore: found it on, virginmedia.support.broadband.cable

[Sirius]

Well i think it is now time to move my broadband. That also means my 2 x tvdrives with all the channels. My phone line, and of course my broadband.

This new STM and Phorm are the last straw.

My new supplier will be

BT for phone.
Sky for HD tv and second sky +
Be Unlimited for my broadband.

Virgin you are now officially complete and utter crap.

[|Kippa|]

Will there still be STM after the new DOCSIS 3 standards have been implemented on the network?

Originally Posted by |Kippa|

Will there still be STM after the new DOCSIS 3 standards have been implemented on the network?

A possibility I suppose.

THIS is worth a read if you missed it.

[reggplant]

Oh man, after VM's CEO's remarks about net neutrality and now this... if it comes into effect in my area which has no slowdowns at any time of the day I'm outta here, Be just enabled in my exchange last month so I'll check them out.

To VM: been good so far.. don't screw it up! :|

[alferret]

I very seldom DL during the day and never between 4pm & 9pm because I know STM is in force. All my DL'ing is done when I'm snuggled up in bed watching the inside of my eye lids rather than when I'm at the PC.

ATM I am not concerned by this, as to wether or not in the future I am, only time will tell.

[Sirius]

Have just finished on the Phone to VM. I have been told that should this be released in my area i can phone back for a Chat about retention or i can disconnect.

So that gives me time to look at deals and ways of moving. What they could not tell me is when this will become standard. There was no indication of if it was all WHEN.

Originally Posted by alferret

I very seldom DL during the day and never between 4pm & 9pm because I know STM is in force. All my DL'ing is done when I'm snuggled up in bed watching the inside of my eye lids rather than when I'm at the PC.

ATM I am not concerned by this, as to wether or not in the future I am, only time will tell.

As noted, their is another seperate trial stopping anyone from downloading or uploading overnight as well.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by alferret

I very seldom DL during the day and never between 4pm & 9pm because I know STM is in force. All my DL'ing is done when I'm snuggled up in bed watching the inside of my eye lids rather than when I'm at the PC.

ATM I am not concerned by this, as to wether or not in the future I am, only time will tell.

I think a lot of the people that gathered their heavy downloads and let rip at the STM exclusion time when everyone was tucked up in bed, will just now think that it's probably a pointless exercise to do so and just plough on at anytime of the day.

I think the new times and figures are intentionally confusing, and are confusing enough for anyone to just not bother planning ahead with their useage and just do it anyway.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I think a lot of the people that gathered their heavy downloads and let rip at the STM exclusion time when everyone was tucked up in bed, will just now think that it's probably a pointless exercise to do so and just plough on at anytime of the day.

I think the new times and figures are intentionally confusing, and are confusing enough for anyone to just not bother planning ahead with their useage and just do it anyway.

I will be downloading just as much and to hell with sticking to out of hours from now on. I will use the normal hours as well to make up for the slower speeds. It will mean downloading constantly from now on instead of between midnight and 8 in the morning.

[m1th]

Originally Posted by |Kippa|

Will there still be STM after the new DOCSIS 3 standards have been implemented on the network?

In my humble opinion, that is irrelevant. The fact that matters is, they ARE going against their promised/advertised policies. As I've said in this thread, if we ALL dont stand up and complain about this, they will continue to rip off their customers with these policies.


I've been a loyal ntl/VM customer since the early 2000. I've even renewed my contract for 12 months in January despite them having introduced their initial STM. I wont tolerate another 6 hours of STM and their anti-net neutrality stance. I would like a chance to bugger off to another ISP if I could.

[Berealwith]

all i can say is OMG.......i have a thread going about UBR upgrades and i am waiting the last 4 weeks for it to get its upgrade AND................"BANG" this comes up and i'm in Preston.........................................OM G.........more and more it gets worse....I will now have my Rant *&^$£$%^£*38**£^£&"")+__£("*"&"& £&&$ hell.......

4 weeks better get the cash book out and get ready for new equipment ADSL

Originally Posted by m1th

I've been a loyal ntl/VM customer since the early 2000. I've even renewed my contract for 12 months in January despite them having introduced their initial STM.

Ditto. On Both counts (though was a customer earlier).
It stands for nothing mate, so you're wasting your time exclaiming it, trust me.

[BarFly]

Guys i got to ask a question :

Do you alter your internet usage that much due to STM ?

I dont like STM, but i dont let it rule my internet usage, if i need to download something, i download it, regardless of time or size. It is very rare that i need something of size off the internet now, that i cant wait a little extra for ( should i be STM'd )...

If i want to use a torrents, i let it run, VM now manage the bandwidth usage for me, it doesnt matter if i let it run all day & night, VM are controlling the STM to ensure i dont impact others..

If i get STM'd, well i can still browse the web, play xbox live, use torrents etc so it doesnt affect my browsing habits or it doesnt affect my usage..

In a perfect world it wouldnt be there, but dont get upset over it, you've still got your connection, you can still use it, just a little patience is the key should you come under STM rules..

or i thinking bout this too simply..