STM Statement

[|Kippa|]

If the upload rate on 50mbit is 1.5mbit then I will consider going to Be. Hopefully the new upload rate will be 5mbit.

[Bonglet]

02 is totally seperate from bt as isp's go

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by Bonglet

02 is totally seperate from bt as isp's go

Thanks for putting me right. That's a relief to know.

[ginge51]

It seems to me that ISP's are the only group of business's that are allowed to make it up as they go along just by rewriting the T&C's as they go.

So true..

---------- Post added at 03:35 ---------- Previous post was at 02:58 ----------

Originally Posted by frogstamper

No mate its even worse, you can only d/l 300mb on the M package between 4.00pm and 9.00pm before stm kicks in.


This also is on the Traffic Management site.


Will the thresholds change?

The way that our customers use their broadband is changing all the time, so it's possible that in the future we may increase or decrease the thresholds - don't worry though, we'll always let you know on our website if we're going to make any changes, and we don't expect the thresholds to change very often.


The way we use BB is always changing is because we are trying to keep up with all the draconian rules that VM keep imposing.

Omfg.......

what a **** service I'm off
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---------- Post added at 03:44 ---------- Previous post was at 03:35 ----------

Originally Posted by brundles

No, you misunderstand me. By having different STM thresholds on different packages they are trying to force upgrades not because you want a faster connection but because of the STM free capacity of the connection.

I'm not looking for a maximum connection 24/7, but if STM comes in round the clock as TraxData has hinted then you're not going to see maximum connection for more than about 30 minutes a day...

Jesus why are we putting up with these muppets at vm?
We're all getting ripped left, right and centre yet we continue paying for ever decreasing quality broadband.
When does all this come into affect btw?
I'm on on 4 meg bb but that's like £25 p/m and if this stm comes in where I can only download 300mb between 4pm and 9 pm I'm defiantly leaving.
***** service.

---------- Post added at 03:53 ---------- Previous post was at 03:44 ----------

Originally Posted by Aja

I don't see myself as being better off under the new STM all they have done is extend it further, the existing STM was quite clear to everyone, the peak hours were designated as 4-9 pm, and you knew your allowance. Outside of those hours your'e free to download as much or as little as you like. The new STM kicks in at 10am and thereafter you will need a calculator to anticipate what you are able to download without triggering STM. e.g I like to watch streaming sports in a window on the desktop while I'm working on saturday afternoons a football game may take 700MB it may take 1GB, it's impossible to say or predict, if the game goes into extra time it's quite possible that I will be STM'd. I envisage problems when this goes national, this is NOT broadband.

I agree.

---------- Post added at 03:55 ---------- Previous post was at 03:53 ----------

Originally Posted by TehTech

An even better idea, print some big anti-phorm posters & stick them to VM's vans that you see left unattended, I have been tempted a few times as there are quite a few VM employees with vans live near me

Flmao i might do this :

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

Agreed.

They have been playing that game ever since Ntl was created.

when vm hits the ****, like where every single person's speed is capped ridiculacly low, they will just re-brand like what ntl did when they changed to vm and start all over again if they've (hopefully not) got any customers left .

---------- Post added at 04:10 ---------- Previous post was at 04:04 ----------

Originally Posted by Aja

I know, I just dont care .... have to log off now because VM have designated this as my "quality time" ... omigosh it's almost 3 pm and I can download whatever I like for the next hour ... thank you master! would it be OK if I have my tea at say around 7.pm & then may I download a few more MB's at your pleasure sir before I go to bed at 9 pm sir .... you get the picture, they're taking the you know what, we rollover or we die, or we move to Sweeden ... nice broadband, shame about the music ...

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This guy says the truth.
Let's all leave vm?
I'm up for it

[chamelion]

quick question for you guys - does this mean they no longer are doing the "we'll cap you for 5 hours from the time STM is applied" as it was before? before if you downloaded 3gb on XL at 8pm, you'd be stuck with 5mbit until 2am?

from the looks of it this means that you can download full throttle earlier in the evening, and even if you do get capped you're "free" again at 9pm?

(doesn't mean i support this new STM, i'm a heavy downloader all the time!)

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i think i've answered my own question. it's 3:07pm and my speed is still at 5mbit. i'm guessing this means that i'm going to be capped until 9pm? or will it be until 5:30pm which is 5 hours after i had STM first applied?

[awesometeeth]

yep gonna drop down to the basic speed and basic channels now

[broadbandbug]

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

Be must be loving all this.

No amount of advertising could possibly generate so much interest in Be's products as VM's antics with Phorm, STM and the rest have done. And from Be's point of view it's ALL FREE.

The only drawback is, Be is owned by O2 and O2 is a subsidiary of BT. (I believe, correct me if I am wrong.)

Oh well, seems you can't win them all.

O2 is part of Telefonica not BT

[cheets64]

Gutted, just been capped this morning, wonder what the hell was going on and found out about the trails with the STM ****, going to ring up and cancel and go onto the free BT broadband my dad gets.

[TehTech]

Originally Posted by broadbandbug

O2 is part of Telefonica not BT

So what changed then from when O2 was originally BT Cellnet??

Another example of a merger?

[ceedee]

Originally Posted by TehTech

So what changed then from when O2 was originally BT Cellnet??

Another example of a merger?

Nope.
More one of BT selling off the family silver to pay inflated dividends (and ridiculous bonuses to their executives).

Ffi: Telefónica O2 on Wikipedia

[Zanny]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Hi mojo, Ive been thinking the same way, also I looked on this site and I'm only 0.25mile from the exchange, if you do go for it keep us posted, cheers.


http://www.samknows.com/broadband/checker2.php

First time ive seen this site and it says im 300 metres from exchange and gives me a google maps pin. so i click it. The pin is in someones house :-/, i scrolled around and saw trees a school, roads, more houses and no exchange

unless a exchange is no bigger than a ntl box......i thought it was a proper mini person sized bulding.

Also now that nintendo/bbc have made it possible for my kids to watch iplayer on their wii has it come to me having to tell my kids no cbbc on iplayer or daddy will have no bandwidth for when he gets in from work (im paying 37.00 for them to tell me when its ok to use my connection )

These New STM Rules Are Now *Confirmed* To Go Live (All Regions) After The Trials End.

[Hugh]

Originally Posted by TraxData

These New STM Rules Are Now *Confirmed* To Go Live (All Regions) After The Trials End.

By whom, and do we have a link, please?

Originally Posted by foreverwar

By whom, and do we have a link, please?

My own sources.

Also http://abcde.co.uk/virginmedia/stm.html and you know how good annies sources are.

Get ready for the new STM folks.

[utt]

So as usual you have no official source and posting hearsay and rubbsih again