STM Statement

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by TehTech

What they REALLY mean is this: You are in the top 3-55 IF you can actually get a decent speed, so the STM you to make it much more fair for the people that CONSTANTLY get rubbish speeds!

One day they call them top 3% 'abusers' of the system. then they think oh we can't call them that it sounds wrong. we'll just tell everyone that it's their fault anyway and while they're scrapping we'll advertise for new 20meg warriors.

[zerovox]

Size M: 450Mb

Does that mean that I can only download 450mb from 4 till 9?
If so, that is terrible!

[ceedee]

Originally Posted by zerovox

Size M: 450Mb
Does that mean that I can only download 450mb from 4 till 9?
If so, that is terrible!

'Fraid so, zerovox.
Pathetic isn't it?

And if rumours prove true, there will me more limits/throttling to come later in the year.

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by zerovox

Size M: 450Mb

Does that mean that I can only download 450mb from 4 till 9?
If so, that is terrible!

No mate its even worse, you can only d/l 300mb on the M package between 4.00pm and 9.00pm before stm kicks in.


This also is on the Traffic Management site.


Will the thresholds change?

The way that our customers use their broadband is changing all the time, so it's possible that in the future we may increase or decrease the thresholds - don't worry though, we'll always let you know on our website if we're going to make any changes, and we don't expect the thresholds to change very often.


The way we use BB is always changing is because we are trying to keep up with all the draconian rules that VM keep imposing.

[ceedee]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

No mate its even worse, you can only d/l 300mb on the M package between 4.00pm and 9.00pm before stm kicks in.

Damn, you're correct frogstamper.
Sorry, zerovox. I was looking at the trial STM figures -- I must be tired!

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by ceedee

Damn, you're correct frogstamper.
Sorry, zerovox. I was looking at the trial STM figures -- I must be tired!

I gotta be honest ceedee I checked it three times, its not often your wrong mate

[ceedee]

Oh I'm more than willing to hold my hand up whenever I'm in error.
To be honest, I'm relieved that you and the other good folk here on CF don't automatically accept information without double-checking it.

We all make mistakes sometimes.

[PeteTheMusicGuy]

Well at this time of the morning its easy to do that

[zerovox]

Gawd, I might actually have to pay £105 for BT to reconnect my BT phone line, and get some other form of broadband. I was looking at Sky, but I would have to go for the most expensive package or I get a download limit!

I don't need fast broadband, I just need 2 meg, with unlimited downloads =[

[ceedee]

Originally Posted by zerovox

I don't need fast broadband, I just need 2 meg, with unlimited downloads =[

How about a 4Mb connection with no STM, low pings and a commitment from VM to get you a decent speed, all for £35.25/mth?
Have a look at switching to an NTL Business Broadband connection?

(And here's an interesting thread detailing Kymmy's recent experience of making the switch to 10Mb BBB.)

[TehTech]

Originally Posted by ceedee

How about a 4Mb connection with no STM, low pings and a commitment from VM to get you a decent speed, all for £35.25/mth?
Have a look at switching to an NTL Business Broadband connection?

(And here's an interesting thread detailing Kymmy's recent experience of making the switch to 10Mb BBB.)

I agree, NTL:Telewest is MUCH better than VirginMedia's residential!!!

[zerovox]

Originally Posted by ceedee

How about a 4Mb connection with no STM, low pings and a commitment from VM to get you a decent speed, all for £35.25/mth?
Have a look at switching to an NTL Business Broadband connection?

(And here's an interesting thread detailing Kymmy's recent experience of making the switch to 10Mb BBB.)

£35 is a lot to pay a month! Its a little out of my range I think.
I think I could get Sky to pay to reactivate one of my old BT phone lines, and pay for their top option which would be £10 a month. I have Sky TV already.
I'm not sure if to get them to pay the reactivation, I would have to take phone with them though. Although, it is free, so its no bother.

[frogstamper]

Can anybody tell me is it just VM who are bringing in all these rules and caveats to their "unlimited" service, or are other ISPs taking similar action, especially those that offer an unlimited service?.

[brundles]

Originally Posted by TraxData

Edit : Also been told i am not allowed to release any info regarding any STM trials as well.

Not good Despite the doubters you've been honest and given good info. Unfortunately VM don't like their customers knowing what they're actually getting for their money .

One thing I've said before and I'll say again as the case here: VM aren't using STM to protect the network - they're using it to try and force people to upgrade. Specifically people like me on the L package who download a fair bit but aren't in a mad rush for it. My usage wouldn't change if I upgraded and I wouldn't particularly benefit from the extra speed - the only people that would would be VM getting extra money from me.

[Cropstar]

Originally Posted by brundles

One thing I've said before and I'll say again as the case here: VM aren't using STM to protect the network - they're using it to try and force people to upgrade.

So upgrading speeds on people's original package makes people more likely to upgrade?

Personally, most people I know don't reach these limits regularly, clearly there's a disproprtionate number of people on forums like these who expect constant 24/7 max speed connections on here