04-03-2008, 16:43
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
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I Don't think so and anyway that would not make money for them so they would not bother checking. ...
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Well the technology is available (somebody posted about a patent), so presumably law-enforcement agencies could use it.
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Individuals, in trusted positions of authority, such as the Catholic church, have been abusing children a long time before the internet even existed.....
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Yes - and what are we doing about it? Why not use technology to try and stop some of this?
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It's strange this - many people aren't agreeing with this and have posted to say so but those who have voted 'No' are not saying why they have voted 'No', ...
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I voted "No". If this technology can help to catch paedophiles, I'm all for it. Letting Phorm know about my browsing habits seems a very small price to pay.
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04-03-2008, 16:49
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
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Originally Posted by TheNorm
I voted "No". If this technology can help to catch paedophiles, I'm all for it. Letting Phorm know about my browsing habits seems a very small price to pay.
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So you dont mind someone being able to look at your bank details, emails etc... I am.. Why should innocent people have there details looked at??
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04-03-2008, 17:01
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
I've spoke to customer relations, customer service and cancellations and none of them had heard anything at there end just from people ringing in
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04-03-2008, 17:16
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
Just had a email back from BE Unlimited .
Dear ++++++++++++
Thank you for contacting us. I would like to inform you that we are not intending to sign up with Phorm. Also in order to have our service you should have a working BT phone line.
If you have any further questions feel free to contact at 0808 234 8566.
Well Done BE Unlimited, Looks like they will be getting a new customer.
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04-03-2008, 17:16
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
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I just called up CS.. And she didn't know anything about it.. and said if this was going to happen they would be briefed...
Has anyone called hem up and heard different??
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Customer service are unlikely to be told anything about this until Virgin have decided when and how they will implement it.
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04-03-2008, 17:24
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
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I voted "No". If this technology can help to catch paedophiles, I'm all for it. Letting Phorm know about my browsing habits seems a very small price to pay.
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Good for you, very noble.
However, I'm not so noble, and so seems over 95% of voters in this poll, so we say stuff Phorm and stuff the ISP that lays in bed with them!!!
I'm all for catching pedo's, but not at the expense of everyones privacy. You say a very small price, I'd say down right extortionate!!!
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04-03-2008, 17:26
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
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I've spoke to customer relations, customer service and cancellations and none of them had heard anything at there end just from people ringing in
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I can concur with this. Either VM staff have been instructed to deny all knowledge regarding this issue, or all of the various VM services, I.e retentions, customer service, Etc (I've spoken to) genuinely have no idea what's going on - which (from dialogue feedback - I feel) could actually the case. 
One thing though, everyone I've contacted have seen and are now aware of this forum 
Interesting!
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04-03-2008, 17:35
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
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Originally Posted by TheNorm
I voted "No". If this technology can help to catch paedophiles, I'm all for it. Letting Phorm know about my browsing habits seems a very small price to pay.
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Such Technology already exists - how do you think they have busted previous paedophile internet rings?
Anyway - such a job should be up to law enforcements not third party market analysts pushing relevant ads our way.
Do you honestly think Phorm will get dragged into legal affairs? It will just go to show their 'privacy' statement is flawed and that they can identify data to its owners, something which they are denying cannot happen.
But well done you just wasted a vote if you thought it help to catch paedophiles.
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04-03-2008, 17:46
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
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Oh Yes. Absolutely. Even though they say they don't, doesn't physically stop from doing it. I mean, lets say they can be called "monitors". So I ask everyone this...
Who monitors the monitors?
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EY apparently.
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04-03-2008, 17:48
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
Who monitors EY?
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04-03-2008, 17:50
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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04-03-2008, 18:07
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
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Originally Posted by TheNorm
I voted "No". If this technology can help to catch paedophiles, I'm all for it. Letting Phorm know about my browsing habits seems a very small price to pay.
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Don't forget the terrorists too and the witches who refuse to drown  .
This has nothing to do with law enforcement or illegal activity, its all down to VM and Phorm trying to make money out of your privacy or lack of it.
If you want to consider the children, imagine a scenario where a child visits the NSPCC site looking for help, then the next day the abusing relative gets embedded adverts relating to child protection charities tipping that relative off.
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04-03-2008, 18:20
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
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LOL, exactly!
The viscous circle continues!
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04-03-2008, 18:48
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
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LOL, exactly!
The viscous circle continues!
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The plot thickens........
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04-03-2008, 18:50
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77 & 102]
Wow. What I wouldn't give to have the old blueyonder back 
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