How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
10-09-2007, 23:42
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How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
Basically I know there is traffic shaping between 4pm and 12 midnight. I also know that the download limit in that time frame is 3gb (I am on 20mbit). What I don't know is what the upload limit is within that time frame. The past few days I have been uploading at full pelt from about 4pm and traffic shaping kicks in about 6pm (upload rate goes from 90k solid to 30k solid), even though I HAVE NOT downloaded anything. I certainly have not uploaded 3gb in the space of 2 hours.
This is going to be an issue for me because I play a lot of Real Time Strategy games and play large games like 4v4 in C&C 3 and Supreme Commander which uses lots of upload rate for these games. I can't really host a huge game in Supreme Commander only for the game to crash/fold because my upload rate is suddenly being cut.
Basically between 4pm and midnight how much can you upload before traffic shaping kicks in?
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11-09-2007, 00:29
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
Upload is not included, meaning you can upload as much as you want.
Only download is shaped.
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11-09-2007, 00:42
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
ill point you to this post here http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...c-shaping.html where i left my comments as i see them atm its a country wide problem and they arent doing anything to fix it the old but you MUST have hit your shaping limit (no we dont fix it now please we waited long enough) excuses by some people on here are unreal i think they have shares in vm as staff.
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11-09-2007, 01:02
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
It goes straight from a solid 90k sec to a solid 30k sec. I looked at the upload graph in task manager when it was at 30k sec and it was solid, not erratic. If it were erratic with large variance I could understand it being a network problem. The fact that it was solid with very little variance suggests to me my upload connection had been downgraded/shaped. As I have said earlier this surpises me as I know for a fact that I haven't dowloaded anything at all in the past day or two when this has happend.
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11-09-2007, 01:22
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
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Originally Posted by Zee
Upload is not included, meaning you can upload as much as you want.
Only download is shaped.
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Wrong, your upload gets shaped down to 30kb/s.
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11-09-2007, 04:14
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
I uploaded full bandwith (~90kb/s) from 4pm Friday afternoon until 3am Monday morning.
That makes it 59 hours of full uploading with no shaping on upload. In that time I downloaded during off-peak hours a total of 20gb.
From this I can say there is no traffic shaping on upload. Of course this is only my experience.
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11-09-2007, 06:06
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
As far as I know, your upload only gets impacted if you blow your download cap, if you do that they drop both speeds for the duration.
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11-09-2007, 07:53
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
Usually I can upload at full pelt at 90ksec during the 4pm to 12 midnight. It's just this week that the upload rate has stopped going 90ksec about 6pm going down to 30ksec. It has happend 2 days in a row and both days I have not been downloading anything. I hope VM aren't trying something new.
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11-09-2007, 15:00
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
erm I havent heard that might be ur area did you check if ur download speed was ok
cuz i have heard somethimes if someone in ur area goesn over the limit it can affect other users aswell
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11-09-2007, 18:31
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
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Originally Posted by TraxData
Wrong, your upload gets shaped down to 30kb/s.
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Actually, you are wrong also!!
it is 32KB/s as this is what 256Kb/s is, and this has been confirmed to me by not only my good friend that works for VM in Sheffield, but also the Indians and also a few managers at VM...
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11-09-2007, 18:39
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
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Originally Posted by ECW_Original
...this has been confirmed to me by ... the Indians and also a few managers at VM...
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So we should believe the cowboys?
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11-09-2007, 19:19
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
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Originally Posted by TheNorm
So we should believe the cowboys?
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Fine then, I knew this was a mistake...
No matter WHAT I say, there is ALWAYS some clever so-&-so waiting to disagree with me, well I know I AM RIGHT!!!
And in future, I will not post anymore, being as it seems like a few people's days are not complete unless they are disagreeing, arguing or disrespecting other users...
From now on, I stay silent, and if anyone anytime actually needed help and nobody else could help, tough stuff as I WILL NOT post where my views are not respected, I dont do this to anyone else, and I certainly do not expect it from others...
A little thought for the day: TREAT PEOPLE AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED YOURSELVES!!!
Goodbye.
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11-09-2007, 19:44
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
well im no expert but i havnt downloaded much in the last 2 weeks i was on 4 meg until last week and happily uploaded at full pelt all the time
and now im on 20meg i upload for a lot more all the time as well....
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11-09-2007, 21:00
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
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Originally Posted by ECW_Original
Fine then, I knew this was a mistake...
No matter WHAT I say, there is ALWAYS some clever so-&-so waiting to disagree with me, well I know I AM RIGHT!!!
And in future, I will not post anymore, being as it seems like a few people's days are not complete unless they are disagreeing, arguing or disrespecting other users...
From now on, I stay silent, and if anyone anytime actually needed help and nobody else could help, tough stuff as I WILL NOT post where my views are not respected, I dont do this to anyone else, and I certainly do not expect it from others...
A little thought for the day: TREAT PEOPLE AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED YOURSELVES!!!
Goodbye.
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Now now children.
256Kbps / 8Bits = 32KB/s - This is the theoretical maximum speed excluding overheads
30KB/s includes overheads so actually both of you are sort of right depending on how you look at it.
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12-09-2007, 01:40
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Re: How much do you upload till traffic shaping comes into effect?
on 20mb XL virgin thingy whatever.. download loads. upload loads.. I use steams digital gaming service everyday.
Never been capped or shaped.. (yet) I fear to give out my location now in case they are watching 
Surrey South East.
Cheers.
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