Traffic Shaping Affecting All Tiers - Page 5

shawty · 03-05-2007, 14:17

I cant understand why anyone would back them in the sense that they say it is still unlimited. Its not, they are putting a cap in place and iof you go over that they are limiting your speed. The cap is till there, they have just done it a different way.

arcamalpha2004 · 03-05-2007, 14:19

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Originally Posted by GreyWolf

Subscriber traffic management has been implemented across the whole network, there will be defined download limits that when reached will halve the broadband speed for four hours.

The FAQ will be published tomorrow on the virginmedia website.

I take it vm are contacting customers who have broadband to inform them of this and offer them the opportunity to cancel their contracts without penalty? anything less is not on.

ichiban · 03-05-2007, 14:20

its still unlimited because you can still d/l as much as you want its just gonna take more time to download now.

arcamalpha2004 · 03-05-2007, 14:21

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Originally Posted by shawty

I cant understand why anyone would back them in the sense that they say it is still unlimited. Its not, they are putting a cap in place and iof you go over that they are limiting your speed. The cap is till there, they have just done it a different way.

What they need to do now is drop the " unlimited " flag they fly in the press.

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Originally Posted by ichiban

its still unlimited because you can still d/l as much as you want its just gonna take more time to download now.

It is not unlimited in the true sense, with all respect you sound like another one sucked into the bs.

peanutkp · 03-05-2007, 14:23

So if you use your shiney new 20mb package and use it for 21minutes continously from 4pm to midnight you'll be hit.

Whoo it's those nuggets that still think 1gig is still a huge amount are to blame.

Druchii · 03-05-2007, 14:23

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Originally Posted by shawty

Well here it is.

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...t/traffic.html

That is completely bloody pants... 3Gb between the hours of 4 and 12. That's 8 hours of "peak usage"... The only real time i use the bloody thing when i'm at college.

384Mb an hour... Or if my calculations are correct, if you download at 375kBps you will hit the top usage easily... Not too fair on those heavy days especially if they cut the upload too.

This unlimited service is not exactly unlimited any more.

shawty · 03-05-2007, 14:23

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Originally Posted by ichiban

its still unlimited because you can still d/l as much as you want its just gonna take more time to download now.

Its not unlimited. Im paying for 10MB, there is now a cap of 3GB on at 4-12pm which if i go over 3GB will reduce my speed to 5MB, thus meaning for 4 hours im reciving 5MB instead of the 10MB im paying for. It is not unlimited no more, the cap is there of 3GB plainy for everyone to see now.

arcamalpha2004 · 03-05-2007, 14:25

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Originally Posted by peanutkp

So if you use your shiney new 20mb package and use it for 21minutes continously from 4pm to midnight you'll be hit.

Whoo it's those nuggets that still think 1gig is still a huge amount are to blame.

That is it, another kick in the b******* for the customer, but if people are willing to let them get away with it

shawty · 03-05-2007, 14:27

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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

That is it, another kick in the b******* for the customer, but if people are willing to let them get away with it

They can geta way with it all the want, it probably wont affect me, but like you said, they now need to drop the unlimited bit that they spread about.

arcamalpha2004 · 03-05-2007, 14:32

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Originally Posted by shawty

They can geta way with it all the want, it probably wont affect me, but like you said, they now need to drop the unlimited bit that they spread about.

They can only get away with what people let them get away with, customers should vote with their wallet.

peanutkp · 03-05-2007, 14:34

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Originally Posted by shawty

They can geta way with it all the want, it probably wont affect me, but like you said, they now need to drop the unlimited bit that they spread about.

It is still unlimited, they could ask you "can you still download the file"?

"yes just slower than usual for those hours"

Unlimited means "as much as you want", but now not as fast as you can (or pay for as that's another matter), there is a difference in the context people use for the word unlimited.

Unlimited can also mean "in no way that it is limited of any kind" in that case yes it wrong to call it unlimited, but I think everyone know's exactly what's what here.

They have limited your amounts by speed whilst effectively you can still download continuously 24/7 - unlimited.

shawty · 03-05-2007, 14:38

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Originally Posted by peanutkp

It is still unlimited, they could ask you "can you still download the file"?

"yes just slower than usual for those hours"

Unlimited means "as much as you want", but now not as fast as you can (or pay for as that's another matter), there is a different in the context people use for the word unlimited.

Unlimited can also mean "in no way that it is limited of any kind" in that case yes it wrong to call it unlimited, but I think any know's exactly what's what here.

They have limited your amounts by speed whilst effectively you can still download continuously 24/7 - unlimited.

No they have limited the amount i and others can download between 4-12pm. In no way can that be an unlimited service. If i go over 3GB they then are cutting my service to 5MB, i pay for 10 not 5. So if im paying for 10, why has it gone down to 5, well because you downloaded over the amount we allow you. Well you said it was unlimited, it is unlimited. But its not is it, there is a limit in place and once you hit it, your speed reduces thus meaning i have hit a limit. Thats means the service they offer is not unlimited.

arcamalpha2004 · 03-05-2007, 14:44

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Originally Posted by peanutkp

It is still unlimited, they could ask you "can you still download the file"?

"yes just slower than usual for those hours"

Unlimited means "as much as you want", but now not as fast as you can (or pay for as that's another matter), there is a difference in the context people use for the word unlimited.

Unlimited can also mean "in no way that it is limited of any kind" in that case yes it wrong to call it unlimited, but I think everyone know's exactly what's what here.

They have limited your amounts by speed whilst effectively you can still download continuously 24/7 - unlimited.

They are " restricting " your service.
A definition of limited is " restricted "
They should drop the unlimited advertising bs and give customers the chance to cancel without penalty, then if you want to buy into it its up to you.

peanutkp · 03-05-2007, 14:49

Shawty and arcamalpha2004 I also agree with you. What I said is what the other side of the argument is, I'm sure you've heard it all a million times anyway.

I'm gutted that I now have 20mb that I can only use for 21mins continously from 4pm (glad I don't go to work). Why bring out 20mb in the 1st place.

shawty · 03-05-2007, 14:51

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Originally Posted by peanutkp

Shawty and arcamalpha2004 I also agree with you. What I said is what the other side of the argument is, I'm sure you've heard it all a million times anyway.

I'm gutted that I now have 20mb that I can only use for 21mins continously from 4pm (glad I don't go to work). Why bring out 20mb in the 1st place.

There is no other side of the arguement. Clearly there is now a limit in place which makes it an limited service and not unlimited. Anyone using the other arguement does not know what they are talking about.