Traffic Shaping Affecting All Tiers

[meangreenie]

Originally Posted by Pogo stick

Am I the only one that hopes that these guys, along with the other P2P users on this thread, do leave VM for their mythical "unlimited" BB Holy Grail and then the rest of us can have full speed back again.

If you're unhappy then please leave at the first opportunity, the rest of us will then get a much better service without you.

watever pal

[welwynrose]

Originally Posted by Pogo stick

Am I the only one that hopes that these guys, along with the other P2P users on this thread, do leave VM for their mythical "unlimited" BB Holy Grail and then the rest of us can have full speed back again.

If you're unhappy then please leave at the first opportunity, the rest of us will then get a much better service without you.

well I am p2p user but I don't do it during peak times maybe some of these people need what we have a work a 2mb leased line that cost £1800 a quarter

[Chicken]

Originally Posted by welwynrose

well I am p2p user but I don't do it during peak times ...

You may as well do it all the time now - Virgin won't mind, and now that Virgin have announced what they consider excessive use, I wonder how many users will push their connections as close to that limit during peak times just so they 'are getting what they pay for'.

I can see it all grinding to a halt.

[mcmanic]

Originally Posted by Pogo stick

Am I the only one that hopes that these guys, along with the other P2P users on this thread, do leave VM for their mythical "unlimited" BB Holy Grail and then the rest of us can have full speed back again.

If you're unhappy then please leave at the first opportunity, the rest of us will then get a much better service without you.

i don't use P2P, i don't download all day, but i willl download during peak times now, it won't even effect you VM has already said so thats why we are being throttled. So i will use it when i want now and if you think that the 5% will move on and you'll suddenly get your cap/speed unthrottled then dream on.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Chicken

You may as well do it all the time now - Virgin won't mind, and now that Virgin have announced what they consider excessive use, I wonder how many users will push their connections as close to that limit during peak times just so they 'are getting what they pay for'.

I can see it all grinding to a halt.

So you think 3Gig is a lot as well then.

[meangreenie]

LOL.. at that pathetic rigged atempt at a vote


vote...

1)would you like to have your internet connection halved but pay the same money (edit..'or more') ?

or

2) no i would like to pay double but only have access to 2 pages of da net a day 1111!!!!!!


... 2) .. for the win ... alriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... let me vote 10 times for de win1111


edit.. note, sarcasm quotes not included

[Foo Fighter]

Well this is great news, i better anticipate what i want to download so i i'll just download random crap all day in spite!

saying that i have been downloading junk all day to see if i'd be throttled and nothing im still hitting 4mb...

edit: if they did the oposite between 1-6am and make 2mb>5mb and 4mb>10mb and 20mb>50mb i'd happily download things over night and have the pc auto shutdown.

Originally Posted by meangreenie

what about global warming!!!

Precisely, green richard has not thought this one through has he? all those computers left on longer now to download
Doing his bit for the environment

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by XFS03

I am a bit confused about the wording used.

"During peak times, the top 5% on the Size: XL package download at least 3GB of traffic each."

What is the significance of the "5%" figure?
Does it mean that only the top 5% of users going over 3GB will be affected, or everyone going over 3GB?

The significance of the 5% figure is that (according to Ignition, an ex-member who worked at NTL for years) 5% of Virgin's users are using more bandwidth than the other 95% of users combined.

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Aslong as vm let people out with no penalty the money is better spent elsewhere, sorry but vm are ripping people off.

If you have had bad service from NTL/Virgin for as long as you appear to have, how come you are still with them?

[RXP]

Originally Posted by welwynrose

if you can afford to pay for two BB providers why not just go to one that truely is "unlimited" & please pass the name of that provider onto to the other 5% that max out their connections during peak times

Sky's free. I use it for web-browsing at prime time cause Virgin's too slow.

Originally Posted by RXP

Just got off the phone with retentions. I'm still on my minimum 12 month contract so they wouldn't cancel it. He said it's not a big enough change of service and that they've had terms and conditions in the contract which make it all fine and dandy.

Er.... the FUP said it's unlimited before. This is a new term in the contract and therefore I should be able to terminate it. But Virgin aren't palying fair.

He also spoke blatent lies. Said Sky's max service has a 60gb a month cap. Said the Virgin limit was 6gb and insisted bandwidth was cut in half not a quarter. Also said Virgin have fastest broadband in the UK and I wont get faster anywhere else. This kind of mis-selling is dishonest and unlawful if it induces you to stay in the contract (misrepresentation). Next time I call to cancel, I'll be recording the call and suing for damages.

If this is a new term in the contract then the customer should be notified.
On being notified you either ( a ) do nothing about it, and so are seen by vm as accepting their new conditions or ( b ) give them 30 days notice of cancellation of bb.
If they try it on take it through the small claims court route, they will settle before it gets that far.
Vm cs will fill your ears with BS if you are a willing listener.

---------- Post added at 23:59 ---------- Previous post was at 23:56 ----------

Originally Posted by Stuart C

The significance of the 5% figure is that (according to Ignition, an ex-member who worked at NTL for years) 5% of Virgin's users are using more bandwidth than the other 95% of users combined.




If you have had bad service from NTL/Virgin for as long as you appear to have, how come you are still with them?

I do not have to justify my custom with vm with you or anyone, but given the recent draconian rip off change to their contract things may be changing, by the way, having an account with a company does not mean I have to toe the line unlike some on here.

[RXP]

Yah I know I can easily get out of it. But the point is they wont play nice. If they introduce shaping, I really dont care about the actual shaping it's the principle that they wouldn't let me leave quickly and easily that annoys me.

They also promised me a month's free 10mbit to try out and continued to charge me for 10mbit, by the time i found out I'd been billed 10mbit for 2 months in a row and coudln't down grade without notice.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

I do not have to justify my custom with vm with you or anyone, but given the recent draconian rip off change to their contract things may be changing, by the way, having an account with a company does not mean I have to toe the line unlike some on here.

No you don't have to justify your choice of provider with me or anyone else. However, you've spent a lot of time on here complaining about NTL, yet are still paying them money. If any company treats me as badly as NTL/Virgin apparently have you, I tend to find another supplier. I certainly wouldn't stay with them.

[RXP]

For the love of god, Virgin won't let people leave! I don't want to stay with them.

[meangreenie]

Exactly, if you tell them you want to leave, they almost attack you physically to stay.. so why the provication ? nons..sish ?

obviously doesn't apply to the poor sub 12 monthers.. they will treat you as the '****e they think you deserve' untill the 12 months is up.. then it's, "but we are nice really..honest; no we wouldn't make up ****e just to keep you..honest!"... including false polls on hardly read froums