Traffic Shaping Affecting All Tiers

[RXP]

I'm planning to really make use of my unlimited connection in protest. I happily kept my downloads between 00:00-06:00, however this is profiteering and I'm annoyed that I couldn cancel my contract. So will be downloading Blu-ray images @ 30gb each instead of the 4gb compressed versions.

[dontpannic]

Originally Posted by ginge51

well well well virgin media are officially going down the swanny with this decision come on vm users its time to take a stand and leave these cowboys at once i want ntl back NOW

i think the virgin media bosses have been reading the koran to much of late

shame on you
allah shagbar.

See earlier in the thread - if you can't be bothered, here it is again:

NTL:TELEWEST BOUGHT VIRGIN MOBILE, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND

What you are seeing here is NTL under a new name...

Unless you are an illegal peer to peer user, or a user that should be on a business line, this won't affect you. Anyway, 10meg broadband is STILL higher than the majority of ADSL connections, so why are you complaining? Traffic Shaping will only be targeting people who hog bandwidth and make the service worse for other people on the same UBR. I occasionally download from P2P, but only after midnight, only small amounts, and who cares if it's 10 or 20 meg? Still damn quick!

[shawty]

Originally Posted by dontpannic

See earlier in the thread - if you can't be bothered, here it is again:

NTL:TELEWEST BOUGHT VIRGIN MOBILE, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND

What you are seeing here is NTL under a new name...

Unless you are an illegal peer to peer user, or a user that should be on a business line, this won't affect you. Anyway, 10meg broadband is STILL higher than the majority of ADSL connections, so why are you complaining? Traffic Shaping will only be targeting people who hog bandwidth and make the service worse for other people on the same UBR. I occasionally download from P2P, but only after midnight, only small amounts, and who cares if it's 10 or 20 meg? Still damn quick!

Of course its going to affect people.

What about those on 2MB and 4MB who only have 750MB at the most before there speed is halfed? These people also have numerous computers or games consoles in the house connected to the internet.

[Hex]

Originally Posted by dontpannic

NTL:TELEWEST BOUGHT VIRGIN MOBILE, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND

What you are seeing here is NTL under a new name...

A rose by any other name eh?

I have to say that whilst I was somewhat behind them on this shaping, the upload shaping is what's annoyed me about all this, as if the upload bandwidth wasn't already substandard.

I'm actually seriously considering getting Be* for a bit to see what I can expect from ADSL, (Not too close to the exchange, but not too far) and AFAIK the tie-in for the higher packages is only 3 months (As oppose to the normal 12 month contract)

[RXP]

Yah, that's the good thing. 3 month contract. I'm gonna go for Be Pro. Prolly be able to get 12mbit down and 2.5mbit up. Rather have that than 20mbit down and 768k up.

[mcmanic]

Originally Posted by RXP

I'm planning to really make use of my unlimited connection in protest. I happily kept my downloads between 00:00-06:00, however this is profiteering and I'm annoyed that I couldn cancel my contract. So will be downloading Blu-ray images @ 30gb each instead of the 4gb compressed versions.

i wouldn't bother just downloading at off -peak times, carry on 24/7 after all thats what the restriction on peak times is for, VM have cut their own throats in a funny sort of way because now they just cannot throw you off their service for effecting other users because they have throttled you anyway so you cannot be effecting other users can you, lol

[RXP]

Yah that's what I meant, I used to be off-peak now I'll max out my line whenever I want downloading blu-ray images. I'll just use my Sky connection to browse with and max out upload/download with Virgin.

[welwynrose]

Originally Posted by RXP

Yah that's what I meant, I used to be off-peak now I'll max out my line whenever I want downloading blu-ray images. I'll just use my Sky connection to browse with and max out upload/download with Virgin.

if you can afford to pay for two BB providers why not just go to one that truely is "unlimited" & please pass the name of that provider onto to the other 5% that max out their connections during peak times

[Rapid_UK]

I just Downloaded 500mb of porn in the last 30 minutes.

Are they seriously trying to deprive me of porn after ive got 750mb of it ??

THE SWINES.

[mcmanic]

Originally Posted by welwynrose

if you can afford to pay for two BB providers why not just go to one that truely is "unlimited" & please pass the name of that provider onto to the other 5% that max out their connections during peak times

why should he, as from now the 5% can download at max throttle instead, it isn't effecting you anymore. I used to download during the day so people like you can enjoy your BB in the evenings, but now seeing that i'm going to reach the limit all to easy, i ain't going to bother anymore and shall just download what i want when i want

[Wicked_and_Crazy]

Originally Posted by kibblerok

Management is done on the UBR, so config will show your normal speed.

Whats it linked to? Your IP addr or the MAC of the modem?

If i change my IP will the cap be lifted?

[welwynrose]

Originally Posted by mcmanic

why should he, as from now the 5% can download at max throttle instead, it isn't effecting you anymore. I used to download during the day so people like you can enjoy your BB in the evenings, but now seeing that i'm going to reach the limit all to easy, i ain't going to bother anymore and shall just download what i want when i want

I download as well but I download during the day or overnight - what I don't do is max out my connection on an evening, every evening & if it's only 5% of VM BB customers how many people is this actually going to affect - most people probably won't even notice

[Mark_2k7]

Originally Posted by mcmanic

why should he, as from now the 5% can download at max throttle instead, it isn't effecting you anymore. I used to download during the day so people like you can enjoy your BB in the evenings, but now seeing that i'm going to reach the limit all to easy, i ain't going to bother anymore and shall just download what i want when i want

thats the spirit thats all do it to f*** them off. we are payin well over the odds for our broadband so we should be able to download at full speed an as much as we like

[Pogo stick]

Originally Posted by mcmanic

why should he, as from now the 5% can download at max throttle instead, it isn't effecting you anymore. I used to download during the day so people like you can enjoy your BB in the evenings, but now seeing that i'm going to reach the limit all to easy, i ain't going to bother anymore and shall just download what i want when i want

Originally Posted by RXP

Yah that's what I meant, I used to be off-peak now I'll max out my line whenever I want downloading blu-ray images. I'll just use my Sky connection to browse with and max out upload/download with Virgin.

Am I the only one that hopes that these guys, along with the other P2P users on this thread, do leave VM for their mythical "unlimited" BB Holy Grail and then the rest of us can have full speed back again.

If you're unhappy then please leave at the first opportunity, the rest of us will then get a much better service without you.

[Richy99]

Originally Posted by meangreenie

yes but their 16Mbit service at £10.0o per month is unlimited and yet you failed to mention that... Mr. Virgin representative

it has a fair use of about 250 to 350Gig per month depending on what forums you go to, so it isnt unlimited per se