Traffic Management extended

Paul H · 24-03-2007, 10:34

to Bradford.
The existing throttling has been active for 7 months now.

(customer)
This is just getting ridiculous now. My '10mb' speed is less than 5mb
tonight. Although I live in the trial area I believe it shouldn't be like
this as I have only just started using it

(Virgin Media support)
The trial does not discriminate. It is set up on certain UBRs and affects
everybody on the UBR equally.

(customer)
So just to clarify, ALL the people on my area will be throttled - regardless of how they use their connection ? So I am being throttled EVERY night ?

(Virgin Media support)
No response as yet.

darthlinux · 24-03-2007, 12:53

So tell me something do u need to max out ur connection that bad seriously companies have to manger these things and yes u do pay however is it that important u max ur connection if it is then u really need a life from ur internet

Paul H · 24-03-2007, 13:09

Again, in English?

**Maggy J** · 24-03-2007, 13:13

Try it again with added punctuation..it is a tremendous aid to communication.

After all you are not being charged for every character or spacing that you use in this forum.

slowcoach · 24-03-2007, 13:28

Is VOD going to be traffic managed as well, V+ downloading multiple shows is surely going to have an effect on Broadband, isn't it?

Paul H · 24-03-2007, 13:40

All traffic on the connection is being throttled.

24-03-2007, 14:22

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Originally Posted by slowcoach

Is VOD going to be traffic managed as well, V+ downloading multiple shows is surely going to have an effect on Broadband, isn't it?

Different system completely so to answer your question NO. Vod does not use the cable modem system at all.

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Originally Posted by Paul H

All traffic on the connection is being throttled.

TV will not be and anyone that says it is has no idea what so ever about the cable network.

I have heard so many scare stories put about by those who talk the talk but have no idea how to walk the walk. In other words have completely no idea what they hell they are talking about and just want to scare people..

. It does not use the same system unless you can prove me wrong and one point to remember i have worked on the cable tv, Broadband and telco network for 13 years

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Broadband is individually traffic shaped on each UBR that it is applied on. So if you leech torrents like mad between 4.00pm till 12.00pm you and you only will be shaped. If your Neighbour who will be on the same UBR does not leech like mad then he will NOT be shaped. Shaping will reduce your download by 50% after you have exceeded a set amount determined by amount or time downloading.

At the same time during these hours there is general shaping of certain types of traffic to allow other users to use there connection for surfing and gaming. Why should those maxing there connection at peak times be allowed to affect those who do not. I am a heavy downloader myself (400 gig last month alone), However i do not download heavily at peak times so i do not affect other users.

Traffic shaping is now being used by most ISP's and is being considered by all others as a way of controlling the ever increasing amount of p2p traffic on there networks.

Toto · 24-03-2007, 14:58

Oh hell, not this again.

Please use the search feature, this subject has been discussed ad nausium.

24-03-2007, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toto

Oh hell, not this again.

Please use the search feature, this subject has been discussed ad nausium.

All these network Experts

Horace · 24-03-2007, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toto

Oh hell, not this again.

Please use the search feature, this subject has been discussed ad nausium.

I think if the trials are being extended or it's being rolled out across the country (which I hope it is) then a fresh thread would be useful rather than the old thread being bumped since that one was full of what ifs from people not being shaped as opposed to live experiences of shaping.

SnoopZ · 24-03-2007, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Horace

I think if the trials are being extended or it's being rolled out across the country (which I hope it is) then a fresh thread would be useful rather than the old thread being bumped since that one was full of what ifs from people not being shaped as opposed to live experiences of shaping.

Why do you say you hope it is?!

I pay for a 10mbit connection(soon to be 20mbit) and don't expect it to be throttled down to 5mbit as that's just stupid! My area can handle 10mbit so i expect to get what i pay for.

Paul · 24-03-2007, 16:54

Traffic shaping is targetted at those who download excessive ammounts of data as far as I know, if this is the case then I think it's fair enough to protect other users on the network from those that abuse it.

Paul H · 24-03-2007, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

Traffic shaping is targetted at those who download excessive ammounts of data as far as I know, if this is the case then I think it's fair enough to protect other users on the network from those that abuse it.

Why does a person who pays for a product, get classed as an abuser for using it?
For your information, Virgin do not discriminate about who they throttle. They throttle the top 5%, the 5% who happen to be downloading at full speed at any one time. That 5% then goes down the queue, and a new 5% are given a go. Both at being at the top of the queue and being throttled. So by your thinking everybody that pays Virgin Media for an internet connection is an abuser.
Why they have decided to make matters worse by uplifting the speeds to 20Mb, only SKY knows.

Paul · 24-03-2007, 17:06

And you have been given this information on their traffic shaping from who?

Paul H · 24-03-2007, 17:10

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Originally Posted by Paul

And you have been given this information on their traffic shaping from who?

It's common knowledge if you're a Virgin Media customer.