Rapidshare etc - let's all complain to NTL

17-03-2007, 20:25

I'm sure a lot of other people are getting fed up of not being able to use RapidShare and other sites that identify you by your IP.

The issue is that NTL's proxies are seen instead of your real IP, and so you end up in massive download queues or not being able to download at all.

I have already complained to NTL about this. If more people complain, hopefully they will do something about it. It sounds like their proxies are mis-configured.

I suggest using the web feedback system, but also if possible please call. If you call during the day, wait times are low. Try reporting a fault maybe.

Paul · 17-03-2007, 20:30

Why not get the sites to code their tools properly instead of just accepting the proxy IP? Also complaining to NTL will get you nowhere, could always try VM instead though.

17-03-2007, 20:54

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Originally Posted by Paul

Why not get the sites to code their tools properly instead of just accepting the proxy IP? Also complaining to NTL will get you nowhere, could always try VM instead though.

Fully agree its not Virgins fault that rapid share are to lazy to code there site correctly.

Gareth · 17-03-2007, 20:59

Heh, I like RapidShare's explanation in their FAQ section...

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Your system complaints about that I am already downloading files or that I have already downloaded too much. But I did not download anything! Whats wrong there?

Our system checks your IP-address in order to count the downloads. If you are getting this message and you really did not download anything, then you are using a proxy-server, which is used by other people as well. Even if you have no proxy-server set up in your configuration, there are many providers who force a transparent proxy-servers between you and the net. If you do not believe us, go to other pages telling you your IP-address (for example http://www.myipaddress.com.) But what can you do? You have to disable this proxy-server. If you are not able to disable the proxy-server, the only solution IS a Premium-account. Premium-users are recognized by cookies, not by IP-address. Unfortunately we cannot disable our IP-check, else people would download so much that we would have to close down this service completely. I hope you understand our situation in this matter.

Heh, apparently the only solution is to pay for their premium service

I rarely use RapidShare, but if there is something I do need from there I just switch my proxy, using the list in the Articles section, until I find one that does work.

Locky · 17-03-2007, 21:31

the site does that for a reason not because "they are too lazy to code it properly" but this is how they are to sell premium accounts, if people could dl free to there hearts content how would they make any money ?

bilal · 17-03-2007, 21:50

Any chance of virgin media removing the proxy servers as ex blueyonder users haven't got them. I assume they'd wanna get everyone on the same system

That seems the only solution to me.

17-03-2007, 22:59

It isn't down to bad programming.

The problem is that the "x-forwarded-for" header, which is used to determine your actual IP address when making a HTTP request through a proxy, is totally unreliable. There is no way to check that it isn't fake.

If RapidShare used the x-forwarded-for header instead of the IP of the host making the request, you could easily write a program or plug-in for Firefox which made requests with random IPs. You could then download as much and as often as you wanted to.

Web proxies are a nasty hack.

**Paul M** · 17-03-2007, 23:06

VM are slowly dropping the transparent proxies.

internetguy · 17-03-2007, 23:37

rapidshare = **** so why bother complaining?

18-03-2007, 10:23

Internetguy: who would you suggest then? Megaupload and all the others are the same. RapidShare is fine for most stuff if you are no lumbered with a proxy.

18-03-2007, 10:27

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Originally Posted by mojo

Internetguy: who would you suggest then? Megaupload and all the others are the same. RapidShare is fine for most stuff if you are no lumbered with a proxy.

Rapidshare will do nothing and the reason why. Its a scam to get you to pay for the paid version simple as that.

mpmc · 18-03-2007, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Paul M

VM are slowly dropping the transparent proxies.

Yup.. I have no proxy on 2meg.. I did when I had 10meg.

VeNoM · 18-03-2007, 17:34

^hows it a scam when your gettin what you paid for

rapidshare has more or less anything you want on it

movies, tv shows, appz, pron, and a whole load of other stuff

but, i still prefer torrents to RS

SnoopZ · 18-03-2007, 18:07

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Originally Posted by mpmc

Yup.. I have no proxy on 2meg.. I did when I had 10meg.

On 10mbit in Cambridge CB4 and i've been proxyless for a few months now.

ferretuk · 18-03-2007, 20:37

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ

On 10mbit in Cambridge CB4 and i've been proxyless for a few months now.

I'm on 10Mb in SG5 (Luton UBR) and seem to be proxy-less now - Not sure when it went