Newsgroup Retention

alferret · 13-01-2007, 22:10

Is it just me or has NTL's newsgroup retention times gone to pot?????

Cant seem to find anything complete.

**David F** · 13-01-2007, 22:20

This problem is nothing new im afraid

Mick Fisher · 13-01-2007, 22:57

If you wanna get anything from usenet and not be one of the annoying, billboarding crowd that fruitlessly beg for fills day in and day out then you gotta shell out a tiny bit for a Premium Newsserver.

Only the people who do this are in a position to upload fills, people who persist in using their ISP's crap newserver should not expect their usenet experience to be subsidised by others.

It's time to stop moaning and get your hand in your pocket.

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**David F** · 13-01-2007, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

If you wanna get anything from usenet and not be one of the annoying, billboarding crowd that fruitlessly beg for fills day in and day out then you gotta shell out a tiny bit for a Premium Newsserver.

Only the people who do this are in a position to upload fills, people who persist in using their ISP's crap newserver should not expect their usenet experience to be subsidised by others.

It's time to stop moaning and get your hand in your pocket.

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I wouldnt dream of saying such a thing after the backlash last time I recommended Giganews

Chicken · 13-01-2007, 23:32

I had a friend visit today and he mentioned that the way the newsgroup servers are dropping posts makes it look intentional - i.e. NTL's attempt at getting shot of either the binary groups altogether; or getting customers to switch to another ISP.. so that they can offer greater apparent speeds when NTL become Virgin.

I couldn't really argue with him.

And as a side note, I received my latest bill from NTL today, and they have added a mysterious Â£2.26 charge with no explanation.

So, off to another ISP I go.. Hmm. eclipse or nildram look interesting......

poolking · 13-01-2007, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken

I had a friend visit today and he mentioned that the way the newsgroup servers are dropping posts makes it look intentional - i.e. NTL's attempt at getting shot of either the binary groups altogether; or getting customers to switch to another ISP.. so that they can offer greater apparent speeds when NTL become Virgin.

I couldn't really argue with him.

And as a side note, I received my latest bill from NTL today, and they have added a mysterious Â£2.26 charge with no explanation.

So, off to another ISP I go.. Hmm. eclipse or nildram look interesting......

So what is wrong with subscribing to an external newsgroup provider?

alferret · 14-01-2007, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

If you wanna get anything from usenet and not be one of the annoying, billboarding crowd that fruitlessly beg for fills day in and day out then you gotta shell out a tiny bit for a Premium Newsserver.

Only the people who do this are in a position to upload fills, people who persist in using their ISP's crap newserver should not expect their usenet experience to be subsidised by others.

It's time to stop moaning and get your hand in your pocket.

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I have thought about paying, and I wasnt moaning just asking if this was a widespread problem and had others has simular problems.

I dont leech, beg for thrills or expect my usenet experience to be subsidised by anyone.

I guess by the tone of your post Mick that you do indeed pay for your newgroup use.

Delta Whiskey · 14-01-2007, 10:06

NTL's usenet server is only useful for text only groups, anything with binaries in it is either not carried or its capacity is so limited as to be useless. I've been an Easynews customer for four years and I'm more than happy to recommend them. www.easynews.com

DW

king2001 · 14-01-2007, 10:12

To be honest their retention has never been very lengthy but the completion rate has always been much better than the last couple of weeks.

Definitely worth paying the extra money for someone like giganews or newshosting if you are after the binaries.

**David F** · 14-01-2007, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta Whiskey

NTL's usenet server is only useful for text only groups, anything with binaries in it is either not carried or its capacity is so limited as to be useless. I've been an Easynews customer for four years and I'm more than happy to recommend them. www.easynews.com

DW

your only a part time leech then

Taf · 14-01-2007, 10:50

LOTS of posts in newsgroups at the moment blaming NTL for all the incomplete posts...... no idea how accurate that is......

If they provide the service, I would expect them to at least TRY to maintain it at an acceptable level.

poolking · 14-01-2007, 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf

LOTS of posts in newsgroups at the moment blaming NTL for all the incomplete posts...... no idea how accurate that is......

If they provide the service, I would expect them to at least TRY to maintain it at an acceptable level.

I'd rather NTL get their network infrastructure fixed first. There are far more serious problems out there than newsgroup retention.

Taf · 14-01-2007, 13:07

I was actually referring to the whole of the service.... BB, phones, TV, VOD... and customer support of course....

poolking · 14-01-2007, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf

I was actually referring to the whole of the service.... BB, phones, TV, VOD... and customer support of course....

That's what I was referring to the network infrastructure

14-01-2007, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf

LOTS of posts in newsgroups at the moment blaming NTL for all the incomplete posts...... no idea how accurate that is......

If they provide the service, I would expect them to at least TRY to maintain it at an acceptable level.

Yea...and im sure you guys have noticed its only group with illegal binaries that the retention has gone to pot.

Gonna ring ntl and moan that you cant download ur warez?

As said above, you want a good retention your gonna have to pay, simple as.

Giganews is only Â£13/month for unlimited useage, are people really that tight?