02-09-2004, 18:35
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AOHell > NTHell?
Hi there
Just looking for some hopefully friendly advice
I am curently reached the end of my tether with AOHell....
Before I sign up to 750K broadband at 25squid, can i be sure that :
1) NTL doesn't include spy type software asking for server rights every two mins
2) Any NTL software won't trash my computer like AOL does
3)There not assholes who behave like big brother
4)There not strongly affiliated with movie companies
Any more things i may of missed to watch out for?
CSR on phone said download limit = 1GB / day and contention ration 15:1 - are they right?
Where is the technical spec. for there broadband product?
Thanks for reading, any advice b4 i take plunge would be great
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02-09-2004, 18:38
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
NTL requires no software to connect, so therefore no spyware or system hogging application.
The download limit is 1GB a day, can't remember the contention ratio, i think its 20:1, but i'm sure someone will correct it if i'm wrong.
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02-09-2004, 18:48
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
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Originally Posted by jellybaby
NTL requires no software to connect, so therefore no spyware or system hogging application.
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Although they do include loads of crap on their install CD
For tec info try here: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...ips/index.html
HTH
BTW, I'd have a good look at the forums before jumping from the frying pan mate.
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02-09-2004, 18:57
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
Re: 1) & 2) you don't need any special s/w to connect to NTL. I think a large percentage of this forum would say dont give Murphy even the slightest chance,and don't bother installing broadband medic, on the grounds that what you dont install cant crash your system.
Re: 3) No comment.
Re: 4) Correct
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02-09-2004, 19:25
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
I'd say AOHell = NTHell
The software can be binned, but the quality of service from NTL is about the same (if not worse) than AOL.
On point 3... NTL don't act like big brother I'd say. They act more like a brother that hasn't got a clue what he's doing  . I will say they have one of the most generous AUPs about though, allowing pretty much anything (i.e. servers, etc), though I'm no fan of the enforced transparent proxy which leaves you at the mercy of proxy servers that are forever broken. There is the 1Gb/day cap, but it's not really an issue at the moment (i.e. mostly unenforced).
On point 4... AOL are not only affiliated with movie companies, they are part of a big movie (and media) company. aka AOL/Time Warner.
P.S. If you're getting NTL via Cable, contention ratio is not comparable with ADSL due to technology differences, so don't read much into what they quote. However you do get a lot of people contending for the limited upstream capacity on a local UBR and that can sometimes cause problems. Also, upstream capacity is half what it is on ADSL on the sub-1Mbps products, which is a bit poor.
Prices aren't too great either, especially considering the low price of 1Mbps on AOL! (£29.99 I think for unlimited, compared to NTL's £38 for 1.5Mbps capped at 1Gb/day  , and if you think the extra 500k is worth £8, think again, and besides it was £38 when it was 1Mbps too. I'd much rather they offer a £30 1Mbps service than £38 1.5Mbps  ).
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02-09-2004, 19:38
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
what does broadband medic do?I hears about it on the support phone but never looked at it
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02-09-2004, 19:45
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
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Originally Posted by lsgworldl
what does broadband medic do?I hears about it on the support phone but never looked at it
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have a look at www.ntlworld.com/broadbandmedic ... all the info is there, and the download link if you fancy taking the plunge
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02-09-2004, 19:47
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
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Originally Posted by quixy
Hi there
Just looking for some hopefully friendly advice
I am curently reached the end of my tether with AOHell....
Before I sign up to 750K broadband at 25squid, can i be sure that :
1) NTL doesn't include spy type software asking for server rights every two mins
2) Any NTL software won't trash my computer like AOL does
3)There not assholes who behave like big brother
4)There not strongly affiliated with movie companies
Any more things i may of missed to watch out for?
CSR on phone said download limit = 1GB / day and contention ration 15:1 - are they right?
Where is the technical spec. for there broadband product?
Thanks for reading, any advice b4 i take plunge would be great
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and still no one gave the bloke a  , what is going on here , second time tonight  , aol imho is devil spawn , keep away from the ntl cd and you will be ok
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02-09-2004, 19:51
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
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Originally Posted by paulyoung666
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no one gave me a
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02-09-2004, 19:53
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
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Originally Posted by monkeybreath
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I clicked on the link and got this
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
Please try the following:If you typed a URL in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.
Go to the www.ntlworld.com home page and look for links to the information you want.
Use the navigation bar above to find the link you are looking for.
Click the Back button to try another link.
Enter a term in the search form above to look for information on the Internet.
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02-09-2004, 20:01
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
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Originally Posted by lsgworldl
no one gave me a 
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well if i had seen your first post , as the first post i have seen of yours is your 14th i didnt , sorry
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02-09-2004, 20:06
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
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Originally Posted by lsgworldl
I clicked on the link and got this
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
Please try the following:If you typed a URL in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.
Go to the www.ntlworld.com home page and look for links to the information you want.
Use the navigation bar above to find the link you are looking for.
Click the Back button to try another link.
Enter a term in the search form above to look for information on the Internet.
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oops http://www.ntlworld.com/help/broadbandmedic/ is the correct link.. thats what happens when you try to do 3 things at once
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02-09-2004, 20:16
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
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Originally Posted by monkeybreath
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try doing what felt like a thousand things at once like i was today
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02-09-2004, 20:52
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
Hey thanks for that and how nice to be (and feel) welcomed
I 'd love to transfer to another ADSL provider but AOHell are refusing the Migration Authorisation Code and all kinds of dirty tricks are in place to keep me locked to them.
I also don't feel secure with them as I like to download films and maybe I'm a little paranoid but I really suspect they could be keeping records....
Sorry one more question, deadkenny mentioned limited upstream - what is the upload on there 750k product?
Last edited by quixy; 02-09-2004 at 21:03.
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02-09-2004, 21:11
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Re: AOHell > NTHell?
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