Can a Mod Investigate

Wicked_and_Crazy · 25-09-2006, 23:05

I raised a point in another thread of how does an NTL subscriber get to watch NASCAR as it's no longer going to be shown on NASN as its being moved to NASN Extra (from 01/10). I now understand that this is going to be on Rangers TV so the facility is available on NTL to see the remainder of the NASCAR season through NTL but at the extra cost of Rangers TV

Can a mod ask a question of NTL

NASN's advertising stated that all NASCAR Nextel Cup Races would be shown live or as live. People would have taken a contract out with NTL for NASN (to get the one year subscription price) on this basis. The way the contract is structured with NTL, NASN is still seperate from Setanta sports, therefore, to move NASCAR coverage away from NASN, breaches the original package contract. Is this correct? If so will NASN subscribers receive free Rangers TV?

Personally i have just subscribed to Rangers TV, however im not happy with how NASN have handled this and cannot contact anyone there who understands the issue. I suspect NTL may not be aware of this issue.

**David F** · 25-09-2006, 23:18

do you have to subscribe to this channel or wouldnt you get the nascar stuff free still when Rangers isnt airing anything?

Wicked_and_Crazy · 25-09-2006, 23:21

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

do you have to subscribe to this channel or wouldnt you get the nascar stuff free still when Rangers isnt airing anything?

RangersTV is a subscribe channel Â£6.99, the NASCAR for next weekend is on live from about 6pm to 10pm. I doubt NTL will send a signal to all NASN subscribers for this period and then take it away again. They would have to do that as the live showing is surrounding by normal Rangers TV programming. Surely this annoys Rangers fans too?

It is a good point though. Can a MOD also ask this question.

Horace · 26-09-2006, 08:49

I'm sure rights information would change when they change the channel source..not totally sure, just an educated guess.

Wicked_and_Crazy · 26-09-2006, 09:04

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Originally Posted by Horace

I'm sure rights information would change when they change the channel source..not totally sure, just an educated guess.

Maybe the content isnt covered

Maybe NASN have hoped NTL dont notive

Maybe it is a problem

Maybe maybe maybe

There's no point in guessing as you cant do anything with a guess, hence why i would like someone to ask NTL the question to a person who either understands the contract or can find out.

**Stuart C** · 26-09-2006, 09:05

I suspect NTL have no control over it.

Wicked_and_Crazy · 26-09-2006, 09:45

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

I suspect NTL have no control over it.

I suspect your right. However my source stated

Quote:

NASN's advertising stated that all NASCAR Nextel Cup Races would be shown live or as live. People would have taken a contract out with NTL for NASN (to get the one year subscription price) on this basis. The way the contract is structured with NTL, NASN is still seperate from Setanta sports, therefore, to move NASCAR coverage away from NASN, breaches the original package contract.

Which is a fair point to make. No reason why NASN couldnt wave the Rangers TV charges for NASN subscribers on NTL, if they wanted to do the right thing

Wicked_and_Crazy · 26-09-2006, 17:49

has anyone had the chance to ask?

**Russ B** · 26-09-2006, 17:52

Nope.

lostandconfused · 26-09-2006, 23:12

the content isnt provided or controlled by ntl, if a provider decides to stop showing something or move it to another channel there isnt anything ntl can do about it, your better off taking it up with the channel provider

Wicked_and_Crazy · 27-09-2006, 09:39

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Originally Posted by lostandconfused

the content isnt provided or controlled by ntl, if a provider decides to stop showing something or move it to another channel there isnt anything ntl can do about it, your better off taking it up with the channel provider

You seem to have missed the point. NASN advertised that x number of live races would be shown live on NASN. Yes NTL cant control that, however NTL also dont offer the Setanta package which would include the channel that the races will be shown on. As a result an NASN subscriber via NTL would now have to subscribe to 2 channels which isnt what was advertised.

**Stuart C** · 27-09-2006, 09:51

You'll probably find the ad had some disclaimer, like "Details correct at time of publishing".

Wicked_and_Crazy · 27-09-2006, 12:57

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

You'll probably find the ad had some disclaimer, like "Details correct at time of publishing".

No it didnt, in fact it still states it on the NASN web site

http://www.nasn.com/content/nasn/por...t/NASCARonNASN

the important part being

Quote:

NASN Schedule Low-down
Â· All 37 Nextel Cup races live or as-live and interrupted.
Â· Every race repeated the next day.
Â· A weekly highlights programme rounding up all the action

1. All races wont be shown live on NASN
2. There will no longer be repeats the following day (AFAIK)
3. There will be no highlights program (AFAIK)

Can some please ask the question to the NTL contacts that the team have

**Mick** · 27-09-2006, 16:51

What is the question that is to be asked ? And have you asked ntl? If so, what was their answer?

Wicked_and_Crazy · 27-09-2006, 17:06

The question is in the first post, along with Zingles post (post 2)

Yes i have asked but the guy on the call centre didnt even know that he could add rangers tv to my package so you can guess what his answer was "I dont know"