New Smart card areas channel changes
05-12-2009, 13:36
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
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Originally Posted by Ben B
Oh get stuffed, I have no time for imbeciles like you trying to down play the success of Virgin Media with this card swap, maybe there will be cheats but very very very very few compared to the amount there are now. So I do know what I'm talking about see and you should realise that it was Friday night and I was posting on an internet forum so yes maybe it was ridiculous, you weren't forced to respond to my posts.
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There are those who just will not accept that its over for them. There is a user on one of the other forums called Nvidia who will not believe its over. Everyone is telling him but he just will not listen,
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05-12-2009, 13:48
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
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There are those who just will not accept that its over for them. There is a user on one of the other forums called Nvidia who will not believe its over. Everyone is telling him but he just will not listen, 
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True it gets on my wick when they are in denial there is a gal at work who was spouting how good it was too get all channels till i said her days were numbered with the card change the look soon dropped off.
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05-12-2009, 14:09
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
How are they doing this then?
Are the channels being duplicated at the moment so that one set of channels are on N2 and the others are on N3? and the new card maps the EPG to the new channels??
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can they apply two types of encryption to one video stream?
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05-12-2009, 14:44
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Prudence my arse
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
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Originally Posted by dsmuk
How are they doing this then?
Are the channels being duplicated at the moment so that one set of channels are on N2 and the others are on N3? and the new card maps the EPG to the new channels??
OR
can they apply two types of encryption to one video stream?
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Dont think a member of staff will tell you that, They never give out that sort of information.
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05-12-2009, 18:39
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
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Originally Posted by dsmuk
How are they doing this then?
Are the channels being duplicated at the moment so that one set of channels are on N2 and the others are on N3? and the new card maps the EPG to the new channels??
OR
can they apply two types of encryption to one video stream?
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The method of scrambling the video is identical in both n1 and n3, the only difference is the algorithms used to generate and decrypt the control word used to scramble the video.
So, you can run both along side each other easily just by sending both the encrypted n1 and n3 code words on the same channel, these will both decrypt to the same code word, which will unscramble the video.
So it's like the 2nd, but they're not really encrypting the video stream with two types of encryption, it's scrambled the same way, but the key to unscramble it has two types of encryption applied and both are broadcast on the network.
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05-12-2009, 19:34
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
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Originally Posted by gadge
True it gets on my wick when they are in denial there is a gal at work who was spouting how good it was too get all channels till i said her days were numbered with the card change the look soon dropped off. 
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haha
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05-12-2009, 23:00
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
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05-12-2009, 23:18
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
clear something up
you guys seem to be under the impression that i care what encryption is used
on virgin tv and I really don't care at all
I don't use virgin TV I have sky as I get it at a discounted price
so virgin using Nagravision 3, Irdeto or Viaccess its all the same to me it dont effect me
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05-12-2009, 23:21
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
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Originally Posted by sniperdude
clear something up
you guys seem to be under the impression that i care what encryption is used
on virgin tv and I really don't care at all
I don't use virgin TV I have sky as I get it at a discounted price
so virgin using Nagravision 3, Irdeto or Viaccess its all the same to me it dont effect me 
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Then why comment on it?!
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05-12-2009, 23:27
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
its a forum thats what they are for
why be nasty to people is it any easier than being nice ?
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05-12-2009, 23:29
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
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Originally Posted by sniperdude
its a forum thats what they are for
why be nasty to people is it any easier than being nice ?
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Your post seemed highly opinionated and I was under the impression you 'didn't care'.....
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05-12-2009, 23:42
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
my post wasn't anything of the sort.
if that was the case there would have been a lot more than you and your bumchum having a pop
and your right I don't care.
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05-12-2009, 23:54
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
Now now children
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05-12-2009, 23:56
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
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Originally Posted by sniperdude
my post wasn't anything of the sort.
if that was the case there would have been a lot more than you and your bumchum having a pop
and your right I don't care.
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Bumchum?! I'm not gonna even dignify that with an answer.
---------- Post added at 22:56 ---------- Previous post was at 22:56 ----------
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Now now children 
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He started it
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06-12-2009, 00:37
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Prudence my arse
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Re: New Smart card areas channel changes
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Originally Posted by sniperdude
my post wasn't anything of the sort.
if that was the case there would have been a lot more than you and your bumchum having a pop
and your right I don't care.
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