New Smart card areas channel changes - Page 4

devilincarnate · 04-12-2009, 07:15

Just seen this article .

The long awaited roll out of Nagra 3 by Virgin Media to encrypt their cable services has begun, with Leeds being the first area of the UK to be upgraded to the new system.

According to unconfirmed reports, it will be rolled out across the South of England over January, the Midlands by February, and the North West of England by March. By Easter, all of Virgin Media’s cable services should be running with Nagra 3 encryption.

This will make it virtually impossible for anyone to view premium cable channels broadcast by Virgin Media except by legitimate paid subscribers, resulting in a serious blow to existing cable pirates.

The news has long been expected, after Nagra 3 was rolled out in the Republic of Ireland earlier this year, and hardware upgrades to allow for it to be rolled out in the UK have been sent out through 2009.

While cable pirates will no doubt be disappointed that their favourite premium cable channels will no longer be available for free, Virgin are offering two months free upgrade on their TV services to new and existing customers.

If cable services are no longer wanted, then Sky has been providing special offers on Sky + and Sky HD for the Christmas season to bring in subscribers to premium channels.

Of course, there are also options to use Freeview, Freesat, or even use satellite equipment to explore the range of Free To Air (FTA) channels, which do not require subscription services.

In the meantime, when approached by Techwatch for comment, a Virgin Media spokesperson replied “We do not comment on security issues.”

So the dates tie in with when VM are saying that they hope to have 20-30 hd channels as well?

sniperdude · 05-12-2009, 00:22

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Considering that N3 has been running for 3 years now in other areas and they aint hacked it yet. It's the end for the thieving gits and it makes my day

you are under the impression than just because N3 isnt PUBLICLY hacked
nothing can be done

N3 Cable card sharing will no doubt will be the next thing, I would bet on that

Ben B · 05-12-2009, 00:29

Hello Bernard and

to the forum

sniperdude · 05-12-2009, 00:31

Bernard ?

Ben B · 05-12-2009, 00:34

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Originally Posted by sniperdude

Bernard ?

Hello Bernard

sniperdude · 05-12-2009, 00:37

lol whatever floats your boat mate you wana call me that go ahead

TheDon · 05-12-2009, 01:06

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Originally Posted by sniperdude

you are under the impression than just because N3 isnt PUBLICLY hacked
nothing can be done

N3 Cable card sharing will no doubt will be the next thing, I would bet on that

It isn't publicly hacked, privately hacked, or any other form of hacked.
As long as lessons have been learnt from n1 and n2 and the cards aren't glitchable there's not much to worry about. Even the well known acid + electron microscope to examine the chips layer by layer might be useless, as it's now trivial to make a chip where removing one layer will take out the layers beneath. I seriously doubt Kudelski are losing any sleep worrying about n3 being hacked.

Card sharing will never go public in the way that dodgy boxes are now.

It's trivial to find out who's card is being shared and to block it. You need private groups for card sharing, groups where you trust every person in it to not rat the group out, you'll never be able to buy a box set up for card sharing from a guy down the pub.

Sure the enthusiasts might have card sharing rings set up, but joe public is NEVER getting into them.

Ben B · 05-12-2009, 01:30

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Originally Posted by TheDon

It isn't publicly hacked, privately hacked, or any other form of hacked.
As long as lessons have been learnt from n1 and n2 and the cards aren't glitchable there's not much to worry about. Even the well known acid + electron microscope to examine the chips layer by layer might be useless, as it's now trivial to make a chip where removing one layer will take out the layers beneath. I seriously doubt Kudelski are losing any sleep worrying about n3 being hacked.

Card sharing will never go public in the way that dodgy boxes are now.

It's trivial to find out who's card is being shared and to block it. You need private groups for card sharing, groups where you trust every person in it to not rat the group out, you'll never be able to buy a box set up for card sharing from a guy down the pub.

Sure the enthusiasts might have card sharing rings set up, but joe public is NEVER getting into them.

See Bernard, that's why N3 will be successful for Virgin

sniperdude · 05-12-2009, 01:37

I didn't say it wouldn't be ********

the point i was making was there will be some that will get free services

agreed not on the scale of the dodgy box but it still remains a fact

Ben B · 05-12-2009, 01:59

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Originally Posted by sniperdude

I didn't say it wouldn't be ********

the point i was making was there will be some that will get free services

agreed not on the scale of the dodgy box but it still remains a fact

Ooh Matthew

sniperdude · 05-12-2009, 02:07

Ben your a idiot. grow-up

obviously the topic has grown way out of your intelligence Level.

Ben B · 05-12-2009, 02:11

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Originally Posted by sniperdude

Ben your a idiot. grow-up

obviously the topic has grown way out of your intelligence Level.

No I just noticed you had just joined and were posting ridiculous things so used quotes from Radio 1 to amuse myself. Obviously there is the Card Sharing thing but anyone that tries it will fail miserably I have to stay. So please will you take your doubting elsewhere. Thanks.

sniperdude · 05-12-2009, 02:24

WoW you surprised me

their was me thinking your a total dimwit who is only capable of spouting
random names to people for no good reason

I was making the point that their will always be cheats and their wasn't any need for you to act like a 12 year old

hmm I don't see mod under you name so why do you think you are one ?

go play on you WII little boy that's a bout it really MONKEYYYY

steveg · 05-12-2009, 12:19

Well I live in Leeds and received my new cards (1 x V+ and one Std V Box) a couple of weeks ago - was dead easy to set up and took only a couple of minutes each - not the 20 minutes as suggested - and all was as before no problems at all.

And yes, I too and quietly smug that the dodgy box folks may actually have to pay Virgin now to get servfices and that this increase in revenue may eventually lead to better services for the rest of us legitimate customers Tee Hee

Ben B · 05-12-2009, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniperdude

WoW you surprised me

their was me thinking your a total dimwit who is only capable of spouting
random names to people for no good reason

I was making the point that their will always be cheats and their wasn't any need for you to act like a 12 year old

hmm I don't see mod under you name so why do you think you are one ?

go play on you WII little boy that's a bout it really MONKEYYYY

Oh get stuffed, I have no time for imbeciles like you trying to down play the success of Virgin Media with this card swap, maybe there will be cheats but very very very very few compared to the amount there are now. So I do know what I'm talking about see and you should realise that it was Friday night and I was posting on an internet forum so yes maybe it was ridiculous, you weren't forced to respond to my posts.