New Smart card areas channel changes

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by TheDon

It hasn't even been "semi cracked".

correct

[Sirius]

On the other forums they have started fighting and amongst themselves, Its so funny.

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Originally Posted by Nivida
so can u tell all of us the date it will all b ending like u keep on about , no because no1 n's apart from VM themselvs ...im only trying to look on the posertiveside od things but if u wonna keep looking on the dark side fine ....but keep ur comments to urself !!!! & keep out of my way on this forum in future !!!

face it ,its over,ending-as far as the general person on here is concerend its bad news-you claim to be looking at positives-but your not,yor blinkered--your one of those"if it hasent happend to me it hasnt happend folk"

as for a date it will all be ending(tv wise)i understand there are some little men in someones head who seem very accurate thus far-so end of march next year for all uk-leeds? the way its going before xmas

if you dont like what i say-put me on ignore-but dont try making veiled threats towards me,you dont know me and i will go where i damn well please

BTW thats how it was posted over there i have not changed any of it N3 hackers my arse

[Graham M]

Is everyone getting a new card? Don't think we've had one here yet

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by Graham M

Is everyone getting a new card? Don't think we've had one here yet

They are doing it region by region .

[Mr K]

What a shambles. I've started to lose channels today and I'm a legitimate customer. Haven't received the new smart card, but loads of letters about it. Have rung several times of the last couple of weeks to be told by 'overseas' call centre that a a replacements on its way (liars, it must have just been their script). Thankfully got through to someone in this country today who admitted a replacement hadn't been ordered, and its going to take 7 days to get a card (during which time I'll lose more channels). Nice one Virgin, experiment on another region next time and get rid of the useless overseas call centre if you want to retain your customers.

[BenMcr]

I would push for a tech to attend

[Hugh]

Sorry to hear you are losing your service (luckily, in NW Leeds, we got ours).

If they can't get a tech out to you, I would ask for credit for loss of service.

[Mr K]

They did say they'd refund me when I enquired, but might have just been trying to get me off the phone. At the moment only seem to have lost the '+1' channels which I'm not too bothered about. Don't really want to take a day off work for a tech to turn up (or not to turn up...). Doubtless some Postie has nabbed the original for his dodgy box.... Whats annoyed me is that I've previously alerted them to the fact I haven't received a new card and they've done nothing about it, apart from cut my channels. They must know which customers that haven't put the new card in as I've had a targetted mailing telling me to switch the card over (just a shame they couldn't have sent the card aswell !)

[BenMcr]

The reminder letters are automatic, and there is no way to delay the channels drops (for obvious reasons)

The agents that you spoke to when you said you hadn't got a card should have following what they are supposed to and ordered a replacement.

[Jules]

Yet again the Indian call centres cack it up, when is Virgin going to learn that they are loosing customers and therefore money by using them! Guess that is for another thread though

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Graham M

Is everyone getting a new card? Don't think we've had one here yet

Info here

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...yet/td-p/14440

Mean while i think there starting to get it

Quote:

Your IP address puts you in Leeds. New secure encryption is being implemented in Leeds, and many of the channels have already gone black and more will go soon.

To put it simply you are stuffed.

There is no fix for it - the days of free tv are now history for you

You have 3 options if you want the pay channels back:

1) Pay VM oodles of money for the pay channels

2) Pay Sky UK oodles of money for the satellite channels

3) Do without

Your choice, but thats the ONLY set of choices for you now.

[Fspiders]

There is an option 4.. css

To be honest this version of rom 180 was only introduced a short while ago and believe it or not the main big boys in the hacking scene (not the crying newbies from a public forum) are in the UK and up till now haven't had a reason/need to start interrogating N3.

When N1 was hacked it was a different era where the hobbyist was the only one really interested in glitching ect' and there weren't any foreign cardless boxes so the hacker had to attack the stb as well. It produced god like guru's who became renowned in the cable hacking circles

Now things have changed dramatically, cardless boxes that have closed non vm dependant firmware (produced and sold by the once god like gurus) have become the norm and these are big big business in the UK and it's the traders that pump the money into the hack as when it's cracked they stand to make a fortune having the only box on the market that works on N3. Most of the current boxes are capable of running N3 they just don't have the N3 emulation.

Will it get hacked? Yes definitely. How soon depends on who hacks it first! If it's one of the British hobbyists then it'll eventually sift down when all the traders have made their money. If it's one of the current crews that own the firmware of a particular box then it will be quick (they'll want to make a killing before it spreads to other boxes and open source). I can assure you the rom 180 has already been partly opened and that's what the earlier reference to N3 being partly cracked meant... It's no where near cracked but it's being worked on.. The old adage stands that something that can be made.. can be broken.

I'm not vindicating the hacking scene or condoning it, but I feel some of you are really underestimating the reality of this.

jmo

Regards.

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by Fspiders

There is an option 4.. css

To be honest this version of rom 180 was only introduced a short while ago and believe it or not the main big boys in the hacking scene (not the crying newbies from a public forum) are in the UK and up till now haven't had a reason/need to start interrogating N3.

When N1 was hacked it was a different era where the hobbyist was the only one really interested in glitching ect' and there weren't any foreign cardless boxes so the hacker had to attack the stb as well. It produced god like guru's who became renowned in the cable hacking circles

Now things have changed dramatically, cardless boxes that have closed non vm dependant firmware (produced and sold by the once god like gurus) have become the norm and these are big big business in the UK and it's the traders that pump the money into the hack as when it's cracked they stand to make a fortune having the only box on the market that works on N3. Most of the current boxes are capable of running N3 they just don't have the N3 emulation.

Will it get hacked? Yes definitely. How soon depends on who hacks it first! If it's one of the British hobbyists then it'll eventually sift down when all the traders have made their money. If it's one of the current crews that own the firmware of a particular box then it will be quick (they'll want to make a killing before it spreads to other boxes and open source). I can assure you the rom 180 has already been partly opened and that's what the earlier reference to N3 being partly cracked meant... It's no where near cracked but it's being worked on.. The old adage stands that something that can be made.. can be broken.

I'm not vindicating the hacking scene or condoning it, but I feel some of you are really underestimating the reality of this.

jmo

Regards.

I'm going to print this post out, shred it, and sprinkle it over my tomato plants. It has all the qualities needed to make a good fertiliser.

[devilincarnate]

I have just been reading a white paper and this seems it could be what VIRGIN is trying to roll out with the new cards as it says that DISNEY are supportive of this and it could be to do with the 3 screens deal that they have signed with them !

here is the link and if the mods think that there is to much info on there please remove the link .

http://www.nagravision.com/pdfs/nagr...p_dvb_cpcm.pdf

[Horace]

I expect the forum is going to get super-busy with people from Leeds either with problems with legit cards or even people who didn't realise they were using non-legit equipment. I dare say there will be quite a few asking about package prices too :p.

---------- Post added at 23:13 ---------- Previous post was at 23:08 ----------

Originally Posted by TheDon

I'm going to print this post out, shred it, and sprinkle it over my tomato plants. It has all the qualities needed to make a good fertiliser.

There should be plenty left over for the rest of us too .