Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes? - Page 50

calmpitbull · 13-03-2010, 20:19

So your one of the fraudsters then. No wonder you take the stance you do.

Your analogy is better than mine. However it reaches the same conclusion for me.

If you get careless and leave your wallet lying around it doesn't make it your fault if someone steals it. Its the criminal who steals it who is at fault. That is how the law of the land works.

There is such a thing as honest people, for example I accidentally left my phone in the back of a taxi on a night out, the taxi driver handed it in to the police station the next day. Most people would have done the same.

VM are responsible for leaving the boxes in circulation, however that doesn't mean its their fault that people modd them and steal cable with them.

I kind of agree with you in the fact that if VM didn't leave boxes lying around then there wouldn't be any to modd. Much better to not create the potential for a problem in the first place, however to make a sweeping statement that cable fraud is only VM's fault is unfair. There is a saying that 'Opportunity makes a thief' so I do understand where you are coming from but it is the thieving itself that is the criminal act, not the leaving behind of legal boxes.

dilligaf1701 · 13-03-2010, 20:23

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Originally Posted by calmpitbull

So your one of the fraudsters then. No wonder you take the stance you do. <snip>

If you are going to accuse someone maybe you should read what they actually wrote...

From Zing's post

'Now I could have simply got it modded if I wanted and VM wouldnt have a clue'

No where did he say he DID mod a box.

What would be the point - he's got sky+ HD same as me if I recall correctly.

13-03-2010, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Thomas T

If you are going to accuse someone maybe you should read what they actually wrote...

From Zing's post

'Now I could have simply got it modded if I wanted and VM wouldnt have a clue'

No where did he say he DID mod a box.

What would be the point - he's got sky+ HD same as me if I recall correctly.

correct

calmpitbull · 13-03-2010, 20:28

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Originally Posted by zing

I actually owned a chipped analogue box so its not something new.

This was what i was referring to.

Dosen't analogue count???

13-03-2010, 20:30

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Originally Posted by calmpitbull

This was what i was referring to.

yes a long time ago now if you can honestly say you have never watched a copied dvd and you have paid for every single mp3 you own and paid for every game you play I will respect your view . There certainly isnt many people on this forum totally honest 100% A few Admin and moderators openly download TV shows from the USA which is a breach of copyright

dilligaf1701 · 13-03-2010, 20:30

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Originally Posted by calmpitbull

This was what i was referring to.

Then you are STILL not reading it properly - OWNED - not OWN. Therefore not a fraudster.

calmpitbull · 13-03-2010, 20:32

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Originally Posted by Thomas T

Then you are STILL not reading it properly - OWNED - not OWN. Therefore not a fraudster.

Sorry Ex-fraudster

13-03-2010, 20:34

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Originally Posted by calmpitbull

Sorry Ex-fraudster

let him without sin cast the first stone. Now you can say what you want on here and neither me or you could prove it either way but you yourself know the truth and if your standing on sandy foundations and are in fact a hypocrite then at least you will know

calmpitbull · 13-03-2010, 20:36

Its true, i am a hypocrite, not quite made it as far as cable fraud though.

Sirius · 14-03-2010, 18:29

Just noticed the Ebay scammers who are selling the dodgy boxes have added a cop out on there auctions.

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We do not guarantee the availability to receive any specific channels from the Cable / Satellite / Terrestrial TV service provider. In the event that the Cable / Satellite / Terrestrial TV service providers stop the ability to view specific channels on any equipment provided by us, we will not be held responsible for this and no returns will be accepted.

They know there about to lose out so they have added that to stop them getting there knees done.

calmpitbull · 14-03-2010, 18:40

It just shows what sort of folk these scammers are. I hope they make massive losses on the stock they have left, however I suspect not unfortunately

Sirius · 14-03-2010, 18:57

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Originally Posted by calmpitbull

It just shows what sort of folk these scammers are. I hope they make massive losses on the stock they have left, however I suspect not unfortunately

What is needed is for VM to complete the roll out of the new system as fast as possible.

Hiroki · 14-03-2010, 20:13

Have they made a start getting those people with dodgy modems yet?

*sloman* · 16-03-2010, 15:00

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Originally Posted by Hiroki

Have they made a start getting those people with dodgy modems yet?

Wasnt that done a few months back with encrypted configs?

Turkey Machine · 16-03-2010, 15:14

By the way, did anybody see the utterly stupid post on the VM newsgroups asking for help with a cloned modem?