Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
14-11-2008, 16:45
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
Virgin seem to roll out their anti-piracy adds every year around this time. Are there are lot of dodgy boxed being given away as stocking fillers? Either way, I read an article recently saying that no individual user has ever been successfully prosecuted for using a chipped box, only the people who sell them have, so aren't ads like this just a silly waste of money?
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14-11-2008, 21:04
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by supremus
Virgin seem to roll out their anti-piracy adds every year around this time. Are there are lot of dodgy boxed being given away as stocking fillers? Either way, I read an article recently saying that no individual user has ever been successfully prosecuted for using a chipped box, only the people who sell them have, so aren't ads like this just a silly waste of money?
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yes but sky is better!
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14-11-2008, 21:13
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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yes but sky is better!
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True. It's virtually piracy safe.
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15-11-2008, 15:57
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Sorry to be pedantic - but game is hung, people are hanged.
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Well illegal set-top box users are fair game 
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And I am well hung
Sigh I bring nothing to this thread
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15-11-2008, 22:22
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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True. It's virtually piracy safe.
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not at all, do your home work...card sharing
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16-11-2008, 03:47
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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not at all, do your home work...card sharing
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Which is very easy to get caught doing...
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16-11-2008, 14:19
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Which is very easy to get caught doing...
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indeed im not condoning any piracy im merely stating all systems have been hacked on one level or another, sky are a lot more proactive at closing the gaps.
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16-11-2008, 15:00
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
Thing is, I'm not sure how proactive cable could have been when there 3 different networks and 3 different software platforms
Until they merged and became Virgin Media, neither ntl or telewest seemed to particularly interesting to co-ordinating things
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22-11-2008, 05:37
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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People who use this kit should be sent to prison and their homes blacklisted from ever receiving cable.
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And i thought i was intolerant of criminals. 
Throw away the keys for these bunch of wossnames
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26-11-2008, 15:33
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
lets face it, it will cost vm millions to change there encryption system and not to mention change all set top boxes, my view is they can't afford to do this because if the hack is closed alot of ppl paying subscription will move to sky, because lets face it sky tv is much better and is worth the mone so vm will lose out. One HD channel on the vm network whats that about??
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26-11-2008, 15:37
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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lets face it, it will cost vm millions to change there encryption system and not to mention change all set top boxes, my view is they can't afford to do this because if the hack is closed alot of ppl paying subscription will move to sky, because lets face it sky tv is much better and is worth the mone so vm will lose out. One HD channel on the vm network whats that about??
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The encryption within the boxes is firmware/software so all it would cost them is the development costs of the new firmware, distribution would be as any new online upgrade..
What VM don;t seem to want to do is to pay the licence for the new encryption
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26-11-2008, 15:40
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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What VM don;t seem to want to do is to pay the licence for the new encryption
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Thats a good thing, but they would loose alot of revenue, because ppl with hacked boxes do pay the minimum subscription, but if the hack is closed alot of ppl will cancel their subscription.
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26-11-2008, 15:49
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
It also loses them money... Would you be happy if you owned a company and people where obtaining your services illegaly? This meaning that you're losing profit.
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26-11-2008, 15:54
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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It also loses them money... Would you be happy if you owned a company and people where obtaining your services illegaly? This meaning that you're losing profit.
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I wouldn't be happy but I will do something about it, vm ain't bothred.
VM don't make much profit on there TV service they probably make peanuts, however much of there profit is form there broadband and telephone service.
The reason why I feel vm don't want to invest in a new encryption system is because they feel its not worth the money.
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26-11-2008, 16:45
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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I wouldn't be happy but I will do something about it, vm ain't bothred.
VM don't make much profit on there TV service they probably make peanuts, however much of there profit is form there broadband and telephone service.
The reason why I feel vm don't want to invest in a new encryption system is because they feel its not worth the money.
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Is this a fact, or an assumption?
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