Do you want Sky One etc. back on Virgin Media cable TV?

[foreverwar]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I cannot understand this forum, people want things on the cheap,

Arthur, Arthur, Arthur.......
Look at the voting - 8 out of 81 posters would be willing to pay for the Sky basics; it doesn't mean (imho) that the others want the channels on the cheap, my interpretation is that over 90% of voters don't think they are worth paying for.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

l have Sky world, and each year, Sky put the price up by an average £2-00 per month, l don't mind paying that,

I bet Sky love you; however, you should not assume we all share your generous nature

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

as soon as a new channel comes out it goes onto Sky, and it only costs us a minimal amount, with VM, you wait months for new channels, and also VM have deals out there which is cheap, ie If you have the XL package you get Setanta channels free, whereas on Sky you pay for it,

Really decent of you attacking naughty wicked VM for giving you Setanta included in the XL package, whilst Sky make you pay for it - I think this reinforces the previous point about your generous nature.....

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

VM removed the basics, but some customers, won't pay a minimal amount to get them back, ( ie 50p to a £1-00 ) it just doesn't make sense, in this day and age, if you want something, you have to pay for it, you don't get it for nothing, l give up.

Some customers? 90+% (of a very small survey, but as approx 1% left VM when Sky basics were no longer available (see, no blame culture here )), it may (again imho) be more representative than your viewpoint. And again, if we don't want it, why should we pay for it (and remember, the Sky deal was for all VM subscribers, not just the ones wanted the channels, so the ones who didn't, and I quote, give a dingo's kidneys, or didn't believe it was worth paying for, would also end up paying).

[chamoan]

I miss sky sports news, thats about it. But would not pay for it. All the stuff on sky one, i.e. lost etc, the episodes are online to download before they on sky one so not great loss.....especially as i "LOST" interest in the series lost.

[Enuff]

Originally Posted by chamoan

I miss sky sports news, thats about it. But would not pay for it. All the stuff on sky one, i.e. lost etc, the episodes are online to download before they on sky one so not great loss.....especially as i "LOST" interest in the series lost.

Isn't that on freeview?

[v0id]

I voted yes, but without increasing the subs. More entertainment channels are always nice, and having it just there, would save me going looking for downloads of shows such as Prison Break and Stargate

[Hiroki]

I voted no as when we had those stations we never watched them at all so there is no need for them to return in our house.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Chris T

Likewise.

So
a) why are you voting
&
b) perhaps you should resign.
Or at the very least keep you opinons to you self regarding what is on Virgin TV

[richard1960]

I voted yes,but without increasing subscription rates ,as after all sky forced vm to give them their channels for diddly squat,whilst demanding huge rises for their own failing channels, so why should we pay more for skys folly.

Having said that more choice at no extra cost is a good thing and vm were prepared to offer a fair price,and even offered independant mediation at the time.which sky turned down!!!!!!,hence my vote.

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Originally Posted by Enuff

Isn't that on freeview?

Not when sky get their picnic plans approved it will not be they plan to take sky sports news and sky news off of freeview.

[Rob M]

Originally Posted by Itshim

So
a) why are you voting
&
b) perhaps you should resign.
Or at the very least keep you opinons to you self regarding what is on Virgin TV

I also voted "No", despite not having Virgin.

I did this, despite the fact that I wasn't going to bother voting, for two reasons 1) because I'm sick of hearing this debate, and would like to see an end to it, if people want Sky they should subscribe to Sky, and 2) because that would then give me the opportunity to reply to your post - I wouldn't want to speak for Chris, but as you would no doubt level the same questions at me having now voted "No" this gives me the opportunity to respond to your questions, which I would very much like to do.

a) Because I can, because there are no restrictions on who can/cannot vote on a topic within Cable Forum, and because my views are as valid as anybody else's;
b) 'Resign' from what? I fail to see how my current occupation (of which you know nothing by the way) has anything to do with the vote that I've cast on this matter. Unless, of course, you're referring to my position as a Moderator in which case I'll just say that the same appllies - I'm as entitled to vote as the next person, and my opinions on this subject are completely separate from my obligations as a member of the Team here. To suggest otherwise makes no sense whatsoever.

As for keeping my opinions to myself. If everybody did that then Cable Forum would be a very dull place. I'm as entitled to express an opinion as anybody else is, and provided the mechanism by which I express that opinion doesn't breach any of the board's Terms of Use then there's no reason why I should be stopped from expressing that opinion - and, for the record, it's not your place to decide what does and doesn't get posted and by who.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Itshim

So
a) why are you voting
&
b) perhaps you should resign.
Or at the very least keep you opinons to you self regarding what is on Virgin TV

a) Because I want to
&
b) Perhaps you should act your age
Or at the very least, try and remember that opinions and personal experience are not one and the same. Especially not on a discussion forum.

[richard1960]

Originally Posted by Rob M

I also voted "No", despite not having Virgin.

I did this, despite the fact that I wasn't going to bother voting, for two reasons 1) because I'm sick of hearing this debate, and would like to see an end to it, if people want Sky they should subscribe to Sky, and 2) because that would then give me the opportunity to reply to your post - I wouldn't want to speak for Chris, but as you would no doubt level the same questions at me having now voted "No" this gives me the opportunity to respond to your questions, which I would very much like to do.

a) Because I can, because there are no restrictions on who can/cannot vote on a topic within Cable Forum, and because my views are as valid as anybody else's;
b) 'Resign' from what? I fail to see how my current occupation (of which you know nothing by the way) has anything to do with the vote that I've cast on this matter. Unless, of course, you're referring to my position as a Moderator in which case I'll just say that the same appllies - I'm as entitled to vote as the next person, and my opinions on this subject are completely separate from my obligations as a member of the Team here. To suggest otherwise makes no sense whatsoever.

As for keeping my opinions to myself. If everybody did that then Cable Forum would be a very dull place. I'm as entitled to express an opinion as anybody else is, and provided the mechanism by which I express that opinion doesn't breach any of the board's Terms of Use then there's no reason why I should be stopped from expressing that opinion - and, for the record, it's not your place to decide what does and doesn't get posted and by who.

Hi just a little postscript to your point about if people want sky they should get sky,do not forget a lot of people live in flats and cannot get sky for various reasons in my block people living in the top flats would get a signal such as myself,anybody living lower down would not due to the layout of the block.


Also some are not permitted a dish so switching may not be as easy as you suggest why should these people be denied channels just because their chioce of provider is restricted? And with all due respect to yourself voting no in a survey to not have channels on a service you do not recieve, is a bit naughty at best. Although you do have every right to vote.

I am with you though on one thing i am also getting a little sick of this debate it just seems to go round and round in circles,and i guess everytime it comes up, unless the key players get their act together always will.

[Rob M]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Hi just a little postscript to your point about if people want sky they should get sky,do not forget a lot of people live in flats and cannot get sky for various reasons in my block people living in the top flats would get a signal such as myself,anybody living lower down would not due to the layout of the block.

Point taken, and not one that I'd considered.

Originally Posted by richard1960

And with all due respect to yourself voting no in a survey to not have channels on a service you do not recieve, is a bit naughty at best. Although you do have every right to vote.

The survey question: "Do you want Sky One etc. back on Virgin Media cable TV?" gives me sufficient reason to vote, for the reason I've described above. Whether or not I have Virgin is beside the point.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Hi just a little postscript to your point about if people want sky they should get sky,do not forget a lot of people live in flats and cannot get sky for various reasons in my block people living in the top flats would get a signal such as myself,anybody living lower down would not due to the layout of the block.


Also some are not permitted a dish so switching may not be as easy as you suggest why should these people be denied channels just because their chioce of provider is restricted? And with all due respect to yourself voting no in a survey to not have channels on a service you do not recieve, is a bit naughty at best. Although you do have every right to vote.

I am with you though on one thing i am also getting a little sick of this debate it just seems to go round and round in circles,and i guess everytime it comes up, unless the key players get their act together always will.

What about people who live where there is no cable or sky? so should they complain that virgin drop the sky channels?

The simple fact is, the sky channels are a bonus there not mandatory for any network, if you that bad that you need to have sky one then you should be looking at your life in a whole because anyone that that addicted to tv has a serious mental health problem.

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The poll still denies what arthur has been always saying that people want it back, i expected about maybe 50% saying yes they liek it back without paying but the result so far are suggesting people dnt really care.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Rob M

Point taken, and not one that I'd considered.




The survey question: "Do you want Sky One etc. back on Virgin Media cable TV?" gives me sufficient reason to vote, for the reason I've described above. Whether or not I have Virgin is beside the point.

I am sorry but I must disagree. If you do not use something I feel it is disingenuous to vote on it.

I would not dream of voting on a issue about Sky.

[robborover]

I voted yes but not with increasing my sub. I'd like the choice, but I don't think they're worth paying for.

I would have liked an option saying 'Choice would be nice, but not that bothered and do not want to pay more for them'

Either way only 12 people are willing to pay for the channels and one of them is Arthur.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by robborover

I voted yes but not with increasing my sub. I'd like the choice, but I don't think they're worth paying for.

I would have liked an option saying 'Choice would be nice, but not that bothered and do not want to pay more for them'

Either way only 12 people are willing to pay for the channels and one of them is Arthur.

Which the percentage is about < 10% and arthur claimed it more be like 70%

I will grant this is a small number of users but surveys normally are, and they normally show a general trend this is why virgin knew they could lose the channels without losing to many customers