Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
12-05-2008, 02:51
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
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No, i am biased actually. Sky is better than Virgin IMO and i couldn't give a  if you don't want to hear that.
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Oh I completely agree  - thus why I cancelled Sky, as a protest for the great value for money they are. I have better things to spend my £192/year on thanks
If I could have VM here, I would jump at the opportunity. On-demand content is the way to go, just wish they had built out to my apartment block 
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12-05-2008, 06:47
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
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Ask me if I am bothered, does my face look bothered? Am I even bothered? No. The bottom line is that you cannot accept the fact that I rip your arguments to shreds, because you have such a flawed approach to every debate.
You didn't humiliate me because I don't feel humiliated, so how you can humiliate someone else, I'll never know.
Stu - can you post a link to this fact. Thanks. 
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Mick
If it one thing i have come to understand about TBR, He does not know when to stfu. He can bang his gums together all day trying to make his thing look bigger but at the end of the day it's TBR that looks like a little kid who needs attention all the time, There's a name for it but i cannot be bothered looking it up.
TBR You can try but i for one will not pander to your attention seeking all the time. You will get a answer if and when i can be bothered to reply to you.
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12-05-2008, 09:47
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
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Originally Posted by Sirius
If it one thing i have come to understand about TBR, He does not know when to stfu. He can bang his gums together all day trying to make his thing look bigger but at the end of the day it's TBR that looks like a little kid who needs attention all the time, There's a name for it but i cannot be bothered looking it up.
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I can't help wondering how somebody can continue to try and wind people up to the extent he does and not be banned. I'm not criticising the mods, in fact you could almost admire their tolerance.
Usually when somebody acts in the way he does you can make excuses for them because of their tender age but I think i am right in saying he is an adult? Maybe he has other issues we don't know about.
Back on subject. Has anybody else noticed the amount of advertising at the weekend for gladiators? You couldn't get away from it. I never watched this show when it was in it's prime. The thing is though, it was free to air back in those days and now Sky expect us to pay a subscription for it and presumably watch endless ads as well. No thanks!
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12-05-2008, 11:59
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
You were paying X amount, you had Sky channels.
Then you were still paying X amount - and the Sky channels weren't there.
And there WERE a LOT of unhappy subscribers who did miss Sky even if some on here didn't.
You could argue that VOD came along and so its technically not less, but its just another feature that you would have got anyway, Sky or no Sky.
I got Sky Anytime, which admittedly is crap by comparison to Virgin VOD, but it didn't cost me any more.
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Good point. 
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12-05-2008, 13:22
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
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Stu - can you post a link to this fact. Thanks. 
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Not Stu, but i had a look because of that comment and found this.
It looks like Sky 1 is currently getting about 3.9% of the viewers watching it daily, for an average of about 12 minutes a week, Virgin 1 gets about 3% daily and 9 minutes.
Total weekly viewing figures are even closer at 7.4million/14.8% for Sky 1, and 6.9million/13.8% - I suspect Sky 1 is probably spending considerably more per viewer than V1 for their respective audiences.
Last edited by Nilrem; 12-05-2008 at 13:34.
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12-05-2008, 13:51
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
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Not Stu, but i had a look because of that comment and found this.
It looks like Sky 1 is currently getting about 3.9% of the viewers watching it daily, for an average of about 12 minutes a week, Virgin 1 gets about 3% daily and 9 minutes.
Total weekly viewing figures are even closer at 7.4million/14.8% for Sky 1, and 6.9million/13.8% - I suspect Sky 1 is probably spending considerably more per viewer than V1 for their respective audiences.
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And if you include Virgin1+1 figures, Sky One has even more to be ashamed about!
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12-05-2008, 16:07
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
Oh thanks for answering the question TBR never really truly gave an answer for.
So Sky do have more viewers/custmers than VM but only just considering they have more coverage of the UK.
I think.  It's very hard getting like for like between the two seeing as they both provide slightly different services.
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12-05-2008, 17:22
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
Sky are going to have more views aint then when (unofficially) you can get Sky including Sky One as far away as North Africa. common sense surely tells you that 
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12-05-2008, 17:33
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
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Originally Posted by Nilrem
Not Stu, but i had a look because of that comment and found this.
It looks like Sky 1 is currently getting about 3.9% of the viewers watching it daily, for an average of about 12 minutes a week, Virgin 1 gets about 3% daily and 9 minutes.
Total weekly viewing figures are even closer at 7.4million/14.8% for Sky 1, and 6.9million/13.8% - I suspect Sky 1 is probably spending considerably more per viewer than V1 for their respective audiences.
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So we talking 1 % between the two channels, my word that is embarrassing for Sky One.
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12-05-2008, 18:37
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
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Mick
If it one thing i have come to understand about TBR, He does not know when to stfu. He can bang his gums together all day trying to make his thing look bigger but at the end of the day it's TBR that looks like a little kid who needs attention all the time, There's a name for it but i cannot be bothered looking it up.
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Its called being right - there - saved you the bother of looking it up.
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Oh thanks for answering the question TBR never really truly gave an answer for.
So Sky do have more viewers/custmers than VM but only just considering they have more coverage of the UK.
I think.  It's very hard getting like for like between the two seeing as they both provide slightly different services.
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Hold on, its a bit harsh to say that i didn't give an answer for a question which had no basis for reference.
I never tried to answer the question because the question was unqualified.
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So we talking 1 % between the two channels, my word that is embarrassing for Sky One.
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How is it embarrassing for Sky One exactly?
Take into account that you can only get Sky One on Sky and yet Virgin one is available on both Sky, Virgin AND freeview (i am lead to believe) and a slightly different picture appears.
In your rush to prove how bad Sky are you didn't even stop to think about what you were saying.
Again.
How embarrassing for Mick.
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Originally Posted by Nilrem
Not Stu, but i had a look because of that comment and found this.
It looks like Sky 1 is currently getting about 3.9% of the viewers watching it daily, for an average of about 12 minutes a week, Virgin 1 gets about 3% daily and 9 minutes.
Total weekly viewing figures are even closer at 7.4million/14.8% for Sky 1, and 6.9million/13.8% - I suspect Sky 1 is probably spending considerably more per viewer than V1 for their respective audiences.
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Its all in the detail, if you look at the monthly viewing figures for March and April ( here) you will see that in the same period Sky One had roughly double the viewing figures than Virgin one for the same period of time despite being limited in the platforms its broadcast on.
Hopefully this answers Incogs question a little bit more thoroughly now i have some facts to work with too.
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12-05-2008, 19:58
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
I think the fact that Virgin1 is available free on Freeview skews things just slightly.
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12-05-2008, 20:23
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
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Its called being right.
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Rubbish. You are entitled to suggest you are right. It's up to others to decide if you are right or not and I would think most think its the latter.
Yesterday you said I qualified for Freeview-Because you have this impression Freeview has more channels than VM - This is not correct. Thus you are not right.
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
Hold on, its a bit harsh to say that i didn't give an answer for a question which had no basis for reference.
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But your answer to me about me qualifying for Freeview held no basis but you still replied to me. Thus, you were replying selectively. Because when it comes to these type of threads, out comes your lame agenda.
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
I never tried to answer the question because the question was unqualified.
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No it wasn't, someone else was capable of answering the question. Why didn't you?
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
How is it embarrassing for Sky One exactly?
Take into account that you can only get Sky One on Sky and yet Virgin one is available on both Sky, Virgin AND freeview (i am lead to believe) and a slightly different picture appears.
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The picture I am seeing is that Sky attempted to monopolise the TV market - It's good Virgin can allow its channels on all the TV platforms, Freeview, Sky and its very own Virgin Media. Sky wants to be selfish - but its backfired big time. There is the embarrassment.
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
In your rush to prove how bad Sky are you didn't even stop to think about what you were saying.
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I wasn't proving how bad Sky where - I was correcting you with your constant inaccuracies and weak contributions to this debate.
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
How embarrassing for Mick.
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Don't know which 'Mick' you are on about but this 'Mick' neither feels embarrassed or humiliated.
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12-05-2008, 20:53
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
Why does TBR spend so much time on the cable TV forum?? Quite bizarre.
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12-05-2008, 21:24
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
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Why does TBR spend so much time on the cable TV forum?? Quite bizarre.
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I have a answer for that but it would involve a infraction for me. 
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12-05-2008, 21:26
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Re: Virgin Media in talks over bringing back Sky
Why does a thread come up where its an all out war on something thats nothing to do with the OP?!
I remember some time ago, some people arguing, and the topic was closed because of that... and I felt the information was vital! Now its buried in the lost topics somewhere...
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