All Chipped Cable Boxes Going Down

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

? so why are you a member of a forum for cable tv then ? even if you dont watch the BBC's channels you still have to pay a tv license.

Lol..common misconception.

Wish i could find the old thread @ cablehell.

You'd know just how little they can do about you not having a license.

I dont watch an UK TV...at all, none what so ever.

So no, i dont have to pay any tv license, thankyou very much

[the-cable-guy]

if you watch any tv channels UK based or not, the law states that you have to pay a tv license.

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

if you watch any tv channels UK based or not, the law states that you have to pay a tv license.

WRONG you only need a licence if you watch LIVE transmissiong so you are perfectly ok to have a TV for console games and watching dvds, no licence needed. Just in case you don't believe that you will find it in the very small print at the TV Licensing website!

What if I only use a TV to watch videos/DVDs/as a monitor for my games console? Do I still need a licence?

You need to notify us in writing that this is the case and one of our Enforcement Officers may need to visit you to confirm that you do not need a licence.

Please write to us including your name, address and the reason you believe that you don't need a licence at:

TV Licensing
Bristol
BS98 1TL

Q:- Do I need a television licence if I only watch programmes received by satellite?

A:- Under the Communications Act 2003, you need a television licence to receive or record television programmes. This applies if they are received by a satellite, cable or land based transmitter. If you are watching any satellite service, controlled from within or outside the UK, you must have a television licence.

You may have been informed, in the past, that a television licence was not required if you received television program services from outside the United Kingdom. This was changed in the Communications Act 2003, and if you are using your TV to receive or record television programmes broadcast by satellite from outside the UK, you are now legally required to have a TV licence.

I dont use my tv for that either

[Russ B]

Back on topic please - this thread is not about the requirements regarding a tv licence.

[harryboy22002]

Originally Posted by TraxData

What makes me laugh is the posts on there say they are just complying with the law...LOL.

Wouldnt be because VM contacted them and demanded it be taken down (with the hosting company) would it ?

some of them would report an old age pensioner for dropping a gig but in the street[lol]

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

why would you 'need' it for kids?



Not at all - it seems to be (as Stuart said) something that is ingrained into us - as a culture we seem to be unique in the fact that we think being thrifty when it comes to food shopping is a good thing - rather than worrying about the quality of the food we have we're more concerned about spending as little as possible - the UK has a very strange attitude like this.
I seem to remember reading that we spend less on food than most countries and pride ourselves on it

if you fall into debt and the baillifs arrive at your door -they are not allowed to take your tv if you have children in the house [educational purposes] -that is why you need a tv for KIDS...

[Central]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

why do people insist on calling them chipped boxes iirc there has not been a chip since the analogue days

I think its because of the reason you said above. People used to call them chipped back in the day and just got used to it.

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Originally Posted by TraxData

Not fixed, i think you'll find the keys change 3 times/day, so the max they get chans on is for 3 hours, you'll know that if u search those sites as well.

No need to change recievers/cards, it the encryption system thats changed, but of course, you already know that.

I might be thick or not know the process but surely if the key changes 3 times a day the max they would get channels for is 8 hours?

Originally Posted by Be*

I think its because of the reason you said above. People used to call them chipped back in the day and just got used to it.

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I might be thick or not know the process but surely if the key changes 3 times a day the max they would get channels for is 8 hours?

Worded wrongly.

But if i explain what i mean i'd be breaking CF rules

Originally Posted by TraxData

Worded wrongly.

But if i explain what i mean i'd be breaking CF rules

I don't think it will be against CF rules to say the ECM keys change every 10 seconds or so on every encrypted service, the ECMs are not stored on the card they are sent in the transport stream. However as well as the ECM keys theres a Master key which is stored on the smart card, and its that Master key which is being rolled.

Its the way encryption works and is not a secret!

Originally Posted by Losttheplot

I don't think it will be against CF rules to say the ECM keys change every 10 seconds or so on every encrypted service, the ECMs are not stored on the card they are sent in the transport stream. However as well as the ECM keys theres a Master key which is stored on the smart card, and its that Master key which is being rolled.

Its the way encryption works and is not a secret!

I know that, but that's not what i meant

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by Losttheplot

I don't think it will be against CF rules to say the ECM keys change every 10 seconds or so on every encrypted service, the ECMs are not stored on the card they are sent in the transport stream. However as well as the ECM keys theres a Master key which is stored on the smart card, and its that Master key which is being rolled.

Its the way encryption works and is not a secret!

you'v got it in one there

[Enuff]

Are the boxes still going down?

[the-cable-guy]

from what some ppl having been claiming no.

[coyle04]

Do you think the new software application that Virgin has rolled out will affect the dodgy boxes in the near future?

[the-cable-guy]

? how will a software update effect a non VM receiver ? cuz thats what most hackers use.

[golden boys]

if people can get these services for free why not. virgin are the biggest bunch of crooks and the worst company i have ever had the misfortune of dealing with if people stop putting money their way, fair play. Let them enjoy the free cable!!!!!!!!!